Roach Wants Pacquiao vs Mayweather-Marquez Winner

[gopi11]

As you said:It's all about money my friend. Personally I disagree with you. I don't think Arum is trying to resign Cotto. The only think he's trying to make is earn more and more millions. I'm puertorrican but here the streets comments are that Cotto never in life would defeat Pacquiao. We think that would be an easy victory over Cotto. If you add the millions in profit for Arum in this fight plus the millions that he will earn later in a possible future fight Pacquiao vs Mayweather tell me my friend who is trying to protect Arum? Pacquiao of course who is right now his number one money maker.

Have faith in your man Boricua. Cotto is a beast at 147, and there's no way it will be an easy fight for Pacman...

[JAB5239]

Im putting too much emphasis on fight night weight ,,,, lol ,,,, like it doesnt matter what a ridiculas statement you make ,,,, isnt that the size a fighter is when he actually fights ,,, your not very smart mate because ignore the obvious , we look at a fight and judge them on the night but whats important to you is 30hrs before , you have never had to make weight you have never trained anything to make weight thats why you dont know .

Its easy to be a little light like 2 pd for Pac at weigh-in at 140 , simply because the toning down of workload for peaking the the last week will alter fluid level in his body and the empty internals over the last last 12 hrs before weigh-in all must fall together , and will ,,, thing is he weighs 147 ish on the night and so does Floyd and JMM weighs a little less at 144 .

They are not that much smaller than Floyd , for *** sake if they were Floyd would out weigh them by 10to16 pounds on the night just like Cotto Williams Mosley or Margo would , how can you not see that its as clear as a bell ,,,, if you think I have too much emphasis on fight night weight ,,,, what does the fight night weight mean to you , the size they are not lol , cant wait for this Einstein answer

And my question still remains.....when did Marquez get use to fighting guys who have been competing against bigger, stronger fighters? We know Floyd is use to it regardless of weight. So when did Marquez suddenly find this ability to fight guys who have been competing at higher weights? Sorry "Armchair" game, set, match.

[gopi11]

Then you should know that he wont get a fight with Manny unless he agress to a catchweight , with a 147 weigh-in Cotto will out weigh Pac on the night by 12 to 16 pounds , Roach wont allow that to happen he will milk Cotto down as much as he can , same as Mosley where Roach asked him if he can make 143 for a Pac fight and Mosley said no .

Then how about a same day weigh-in for a Pac/Cotto or even a Pac/Mosley fight? If they're fighting at 147, and they're supposed to make 147 at some point, then that wouldn't be a problem for any of the boxers. The main event usually starts at 8:30 pm Pacific, how's a 7 pm weigh-in sounds to you? If Cotto/Mosley managed to gain 50 pounds before fight time, I'm sure you will hear no complaints from the Pacman camp...

[gopi11]

So Manny gets around 30% against ODL, 50 against Hatton, and now Floyd deserves no more than 35% ish against Manny.

Bob Arum is seriously pissing me off lately. Negotiations for that fight are going to be a nitemare.

Manny got 32%, which is more than what Floyd got from Oscar, get your facts straight, although I agree with you that Floyd deserve more than 35%. It's just Bob Arum's posturing for Manny in case the fight gets to the initial stages...

[RodBarker]

And my question still remains.....when did Marquez get use to fighting guys who have been competing against bigger, stronger fighters? We know Floyd is use to it regardless of weight. So when did Marquez suddenly find this ability to fight guys who have been competing at higher weights? Sorry "Armchair" game, set, match.

Who said he has to be used to it you **** did Manny get used to 147 he fought JMM , they gotta start somewhere he went up for Casa and Diaz and is going up again thats weigh-in weight his going in fight weight will be 143-145 all the way through the division hops would like to bet on that , nobody said Floyd is not bigger , he is a little bigger about 4 lb thats the point , mate your proving you dont need to have a long neck to be a goose ,,, and Im still waiting for a trainer or fighter to agree with your weight theories havent you found one yet lol ,,, you got knocked out of this debate as soon as you opened your mouth mate because you dont know weight , didnt I say that in the first post

Here is another thread thats relative
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=271497

[RodBarker]

Then how about a same day weigh-in for a Pac/Cotto or even a Pac/Mosley fight? If they're fighting at 147, and they're supposed to make 147 at some point, then that wouldn't be a problem for any of the boxers. The main event usually starts at 8:30 pm Pacific, how's a 7 pm weigh-in sounds to you? If Cotto/Mosley managed to gain 50 pounds before fight time, I'm sure you will hear no complaints from the Pacman camp...

Right before the fight weigh-in and both are 147 Pac would destroy him ,, Cotto would blow out to mid 150s while weighing in at 140 , fighting at 147 for Cotto would really hurt him and puts him 12 pounds under where he usually is at fight time ,,,, for christ sake this is not hard to work out how can you call yourselves boxing fans and know nothing about the weight difference of these fighters .

[nolotek]

Have faith in your man Boricua. Cotto is a beast at 147, and there's no way it will be an easy fight for Pacman...

Let's be realistic. We're talking about a perfect machine. There's no barriers for a boxer like Pacquiao. No matter how big or stronger you are, he'll kill you with his speed and sharpshooting. Can anyone afford that? No way!

[gopi11]

Right before the fight weigh-in and both are 147 Pac would destroy him ,, Cotto would blow out to mid 150s while weighing in at 140 , fighting at 147 for Cotto would really hurt him and puts him 12 pounds under where he usually is at fight time ,,,, for christ sake this is not hard to work out how can you call yourselves boxing fans and know nothing about the weight difference of these fighters .

Then put in your two cents genius...

[GRUSTLER]

Looks like Bob Arum is being over ruled here.

[Xcusemymood]

Why wouldn't it happen? Floyd said if he came back it would be about legacy, not money. He would still be making millions. If it doesn't happen (he should be going for Cotto or Mosely anyway) it'll be Floyds ego that nixes the deal, considering his previous statements.

Youve got to be joking if you think Floyd would settle for 35-65.

Saying its Floyds ego that will nix the deal is a very very rediculous statment as 35-65 is totally unrealistic.