Roach Wants Pacquiao vs Mayweather-Marquez Winner

[Xcusemymood]

Lol, how much more of an advantage does he need? You guys are always claiming he isn't a natural welter. Well, now he could have fought at his natural weight and had the advantage of bringing Marquez up and into untested waters. There is another word for what Floyd is doing here, and we all know it, don't we?

Youre being a hater man. Straight up.

[Xcusemymood]

So you think Floyd Mayweather vs. Paul Williams is a fair fight
but JMM vs. Floyd is a huge mismatch

Mayweather welterweight division: 4th
JMM welterweight division: 5th
Paul Williams welterweight division: 2nd (started at 160)
Mayweather: 80% of his career at Superfeather weight
JMM: 90% of his career at Feather weight

lets be serious.

Whatever motivations is behind the comments you just made, are not the motivations of somebody who is a fairminded person and a objective person.
I thought you were one of those if you can make the weight you are a welterweight kind of people... I guess not.
you only apply that standard when it suites your argument. but when it doesnt suite your argument you complain about the purity of weight divisions.

sounds hypocritical imo.
but at the end of the day
your opinion is very valuable because like it or not on my behalf.
the world needs people like you.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Xcusemymood]

Please....show me where I've ever said one fighter should have to fight a bigger guy without getting in a few fights at that weight first to make sure he was still able to compete. I'll be waiting for it, or an apology, because I've never been one of those posters who say any fighter should just move up and take on the best without testing the waters and making sure his skillset is largely intact.

The funny thiung is about your whole argument is that JMM called out Floyd to fight. How are you gonna sit here and knock Floyd for taking the fight. JMM obviously thinks hes ready.

If you really want Marquez to take a few fights to get used to the weight maybe YOU SHOULD TELL HIM SO YOURSELF?

[Xcusemymood]

oh? Which is why marquez was willing to make the jump to 140 to follow paquiao, he stated that many times, knowing pac would be tied up in a fight with hatton he called out mayweather jr and mayweather took the fight. This is the number 2 fighter p4p and you are treating him like some kind of club fighter. Marquez was going to move up no matter what.

Again, if pac and marquez fought a 3rd time, which had been expressed many times, the fight would likely be at 140, with pac showing up at ****in 148 by fight time, i bet youd have no problem with that now would you?

Why should i be apologetic for marquez throwing himself out there to a guy knowing hed have to move up in weight, something he was going to do anyway. The fight is at a catchweight, 3 lbs above the weight he planned on moving to anyway.

Would you object if he would have taken on timothy bradley at 140, and bradley showed up at 146 on fight night?

You also probably have no problem with cotto draining himself to an unhealthy 142 so pac himself can have an advantage. You are asking me to show you when marquez has shown to prove himself above 140, but marquez is the one who wants to show that, and hes doing it against the p4p number 1 and hes ****in p4p number 2. It helps that floyd isnt that far up on the division ladder and was willing to come down, but since its floyd, this is a problem.

great post

[Xcusemymood]

floyd never fought at 154 when he faced oscar, so your argument about marquez not fighting above 140 is garbage.. marquez issued a challenge to floyd knowing he never fought above 140, b ut he is willing to try it.

He doesnt get it man dont bother.

[Xcusemymood]

Every post you write is garbage, which is why you are entirely in the red. Floyd was chasing Oscars money just as Marquez is chasing Floyds. Difference is....now Floyd gets to fight an older, smaller guy instead of an older bigger guy.

Or why not Marquez fights a bigger guy?(I dont really think you can talk about Marquez age as it hasnt been an issue in his fights.)

Because you have to look for a way to hate on Floyd?

[Xcusemymood]

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Im not asking you to do anything. Im simply pointing out that this is in no way shape or form a legacy fight. Its about money. You keep talking about what other fighters are doing. Im talking about what Floyd is doing in comparison to what he said....."if I come back it will be for legacy, not money".FONT]

You are the only one who has said anything about this being a legacy fight. Go ahead and condemn Floyd for "going against his word".

No one cares and no one is gonna be mad at him except someone looking to discredit him.

Even if he was just doing it for legacy 35-65 is absolutley trash, which is the whole point.

[Xcusemymood]

Pacquiao is a FRAUD until he fights another pure boxer. Morales whooped his ass past his prime, and Marquez have him hell.

Time to stop facing damaged goods and fight a real fight again.

Mayweather dominates Pacquiao.

Let's see if Manny Duckman takes this fight!

Please go away.

[Xcusemymood]

Why would Floyd even want 70% if he is really coming back for legacy and not money as he has already stated? Why not take 45%? Its not about the the money, right? Isn't that what he said?

Are you kidding?

Do you even know who you are talking about? Do you have ANY CLUE who you are talking about?

[Xcusemymood]

If I'm Arum, knowing Floyd needs Pac. I say look, 60/40 split @ 140. You don't want it,then you go fight a real WW. End of story.

For anyone that hates on that split. I don't know about you guys but if I run a business, i have 2 guys fighting for a higher salary grade, i'll give it to the guy who's got more earning potential in the future. the guy's who's put my business back in the eye of the public. a guy who is an icon in his home country, and who generates more excitement. Forget the past, these are the top 2 guys i have right now, i'm investing more in the guy who looks like my future, not the guy who's quit on me twice.

60/40 @ 140 or go fight a top WW, especially when you've got everyone wanting to fight you.

Well written post. You actually gave substance and a valid reason for Pac getting the bigger share of the purse.

In all honesty I dont really see it happening but at least someone can write something besides "**** Floyd hes a ***** for fighting featherweights and Manny will ko him in 2 rnds."