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  • boxaholic
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    #811
    Originally posted by handler000
    I thought he learned from the negotiations before the 2nd PAC when he priced himself out of it. He needs to realize he is not in position to demand sh**.
    You are right. He is a great boxer that is horrible at realizing his worth and demands. JMM is a second rate fighter at every weight class financially. Pac dares to be great so he fights Morales 3 times, JMM 2x, Barrera 2x, Goes up to 147 to fight De La Hoya, goes up to 140 to fight Hatton. JMM isn't the man at 135 Pac is, Isn't the man at 140 Hatton is and isn't top 7 at 147 so he should keep his counterpunching self at 130 or put his money where his mouth is and dare to be great.

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    • handler000
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      #812
      Originally posted by boxaholic
      You are right. He is a great boxer that is horrible at realizing his worth and demands. JMM is a second rate fighter at every weight class financially. Pac dares to be great so he fights Morales 3 times, JMM 2x, Barrera 2x, Goes up to 147 to fight De La Hoya, goes up to 140 to fight Hatton. JMM isn't the man at 135 Pac is, Isn't the man at 140 Hatton is and isn't top 7 at 147 so he should keep his counterpunching self at 130 or put his money where his mouth is and dare to be great.
      He doesnt dare to be great. He just wants to get paid like he is great. Like you said take that dog and pony show back to 130.

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      • Fighting Champ
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        #813
        Originally posted by boxaholic
        JMM is mouth is getting him in trouble. He bitches about Manny avoiding him even though Manny fought him twice. He calls out Floyd Mayweather Jr. Who is retired and wants to make the weight demand of 140. JMM should Shut the F@ck up. JMM is a great fighter with a mouth that gets him in trouble. Floyd should not give this loser the big payday JMM thinks he deserves.
        The reason Marguez first called out Mayweather was just to get into mannys head so he can accept the fight. Marguez went up in weight to 135 and is willing to move to 140, but that isn't enough for anyone.

        All some fans want is a someone to lose and their idol to win no matter the circumstances. If 140 isn't good enough for Mayweather it isn't for Marguez either. If Mayweather wants to fight at 147 they're plenty of fighters out there willing to fight him. Or does he want all the small guys to move up?
        If he wants a tune-up he should fight Carlos Quintana, or Collazo two decent fighters from his own weight for a tune-up. and then he can go down in weight or do whatever the heck he wants, but please do something.

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          #814
          Originally posted by Fighting Champ
          The reason Marguez first called out Mayweather was just to get into mannys head so he can accept the fight. Marguez went up in weight to 135 and is willing to move to 140, but that isn't enough for anyone.

          All some fans want is a someone to lose and their idol to win no matter the circumstances. If 140 isn't good enough for Mayweather it isn't for Marguez either. If Mayweather wants to fight at 147 they're plenty of fighters out there willing to fight him. Or does he want all the small guys to move up?
          If he wants a tune-up he should fight Carlos Quintana, or Collazo two decent fighters from his own weight for a tune-up. and then he can go down in weight or do whatever the heck he wants, but please do something.
          Cosign.

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          • RodBarker
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            #815
            Originally posted by Fighting Champ
            The reason Marguez first called out Mayweather was just to get into mannys head so he can accept the fight. Marguez went up in weight to 135 and is willing to move to 140, but that isn't enough for anyone.

            All some fans want is a someone to lose and their idol to win no matter the circumstances. If 140 isn't good enough for Mayweather it isn't for Marguez either. If Mayweather wants to fight at 147 they're plenty of fighters out there willing to fight him. Or does he want all the small guys to move up?
            If he wants a tune-up he should fight Carlos Quintana, or Collazo two decent fighters from his own weight for a tune-up. and then he can go down in weight or do whatever the heck he wants, but please do something.
            I agree with this ,,,, I stand up for him alot in here but he should fight a Welter if he wants to fight at 147 , or meet the little guy half way which is 140 , cant have it both ways .

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              #816
              The way I see, it. JMM issued a challenge to Floyd at 140. Its up to Floyd to either step up, and meet the challenge. Or look else where, for another easy pay day/Tune up.


              Not that JMM is an easy pay day/Tune up. But it seems that Floyd and his following think so. A legitimate P4P’er/ Future Hall of famer never is.

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                #817
                [QUOTE=Fighting Champ;5068990]The reason Marguez first called out Mayweather was just to get into mannys head so he can accept the fight. Marguez went up in weight to 135 and is willing to move to 140, but that isn't enough for anyone.

                All some fans want is a someone to lose and their idol to win no matter the circumstances. If 140 isn't good enough for Mayweather it isn't for Marguez either. If Mayweather wants to fight at 147 they're plenty of fighters out there willing to fight him. Or does he want all the small guys to move up?
                If he wants a tune-up he should fight Carlos Quintana, or Collazo two decent fighters from his own weight for a tune-up. and then he can go down in weight or do whatever the heck he wants, but please do something.

                JMM is more money and a better name on Floyd's resume than Collazo or Quintana. JMM called out Floyd. If Floyd called out Pwill you haters will be all over him. The difference is Floyd was retired when ***** ass JMM called him out. Manny is a superstar and JMM is what? IF JMM fights Mayweather and competes or upsets him ( Can't Happen) Manny will definately fight him. As The great Ric Flair sys "TO be the man you got to beat the man and Floyd Mayweather is the man WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

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                • handler000
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                  #818
                  Originally posted by Fighting Champ
                  The reason Marguez first called out Mayweather was just to get into mannys head so he can accept the fight. Marguez went up in weight to 135 and is willing to move to 140, but that isn't enough for anyone.

                  All some fans want is a someone to lose and their idol to win no matter the circumstances. If 140 isn't good enough for Mayweather it isn't for Marguez either. If Mayweather wants to fight at 147 they're plenty of fighters out there willing to fight him. Or does he want all the small guys to move up?
                  If he wants a tune-up he should fight Carlos Quintana, or Collazo two decent fighters from his own weight for a tune-up. and then he can go down in weight or do whatever the heck he wants, but please do something.
                  A lot of people keeps saying this, how does calling out Floyd get in Manny's head? Unless JMM knew PAC wanted to fight Floyd after Hatton. But that still doesnt help JMM because NO ONE needs him to make a big fight. He should go back and negotiate at a catch weight or go fight someone else at 140. He is not in the position to demand SH**

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                  • fdotorres
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                    #819
                    Originally posted by boxaholic
                    You are right. He is a great boxer that is horrible at realizing his worth and demands. JMM is a second rate fighter at every weight class financially. Pac dares to be great so he fights Morales 3 times, JMM 2x, Barrera 2x, Goes up to 147 to fight De La Hoya, goes up to 140 to fight Hatton. JMM isn't the man at 135 Pac is, Isn't the man at 140 Hatton is and isn't top 7 at 147 so he should keep his counterpunching self at 130 or put his money where his mouth is and dare to be great.
                    so... the man with the ring magazine, wba, ibo, and wbo belts isn't the top dog at 135? how many belts does pac has in 135?

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                    • handler000
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                      #820
                      Originally posted by RodBarker
                      I agree with this ,,,, I stand up for him alot in here but he should fight a Welter if he wants to fight at 147 , or meet the little guy half way which is 140 , cant have it both ways .
                      How is meeting at 140 half way? JMM was moving to 140 anyway!!

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