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  • Originally posted by Silencers View Post
    They should compromise on the weight, 142 or something. 147 puts Marquez at a big disadvantage.
    Yeah at least a catch weight or either at 140 straight up.

    Originally posted by Fighting Champ View Post
    If Mayweather wants to fight at 147, why doesn't he challenge Mosley, Cotto, Berto?
    He's just looking to have an advantage over an already smaller fighter that has moves up in weight. Atleast Pacman still showed some speed at 147, Marguez would be to slow.
    This is the way I see it too, Marquez is slower at 135 and it is visibly obvious during his fights. Mayweather will likely un retire fight Marquez and retire again

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    • he should claim his WBC belt held by berto

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      • I think Floyd is being lazy , he could make 140 but he would have to prepare with more work and discipline and where he sits now he probably thinks f**k that for JMM , he challenged Floyd not the other way around its more about Floyd can pick and chose because his the biggest scalp in boxing he is the one regarded by his peers the trainers and fighters as the P4P best in boxing today , even if you guys dont think so the game does and thats why he calls the shots .

        I reckon if Pac beats Hatton then Floyd would sacrifice to get the fight the prestige Floyd would get from beating Pac would sign his career off on a meaning full note , it would legitimize Floyd Mayweather as an ATG , and Floyd knows it Pac the one he wants !

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        • Originally posted by RodBarker View Post
          I think Floyd is being lazy , he could make 140 but he would have to prepare with more work and discipline and where he sits now he probably thinks f**k that for JMM , he challenged Floyd not the other way around its more about Floyd can pick and chose because his the biggest scalp in boxing he is the one regarded by his peers the trainers and fighters as the P4P best in boxing today , even if you guys dont think so the game does and thats why he calls the shots .

          I reckon if Pac beats Hatton then Floyd would sacrifice to get the fight the prestige Floyd would get from beating Pac would sign his career off on a meaning full note , it would legitimize Floyd Mayweather as an ATG , and Floyd knows it Pac the one he wants !
          Floyd would stilll be regarded as a chicken for avoiding the real challengers.
          Oscar De La hoya hype Manny as being so great just so he could beat him and make himself look greater. He did the same with Mayweather, but it didn't work out for him.

          Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter , but he's doing more than what people thought he was capable of. If Manny beats floyd is a plus for him. If Mayweather beats Manny he still would not prove much, but if Mayweather beats Mosley or Paull Williams only then will he win respect from the fans.

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          • Originally posted by Fighting Champ View Post

            Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter , but he's doing more than what people thought he was capable of. If Manny beats floyd is a plus for him. If Mayweather beats Manny he still would not prove much, but if Mayweather beats Mosley or Paull Williams only then will he win respect from the fans.
            Are you acting ******?
            So beating the number one P4P fighter in the world who is the same size as you won’t get you credit. But beating an old past it Mosley will.

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            • Originally posted by Malcolm. View Post
              Are you acting ******?
              So beating the number one P4P fighter in the world who is the same size as you won’t get you credit. But beating an old past it Mosley will.
              Who's more of a dangerous fighter Manny or Mosley?

              Manny has only had one fight in 135 one at 147 and now one at 140.
              Manny made his name of the best P4P fighter before he fought Oscar or Diaz.
              Would Paull Williams win any credit for beating Manny at 147lb?

              It doesn't make you great to beat a boxer smaller than you. Mayweather is 5'8'' and has been at that weight in his last two fights. How tall do you think Manny is? Manny started his career at 107lbs, Floyd at 130lbs.

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              • Originally posted by Fighting Champ View Post
                Who's more of a dangerous fighter Manny or Mosley?

                Manny has only had one fight in 135 one at 147 and now one at 140.
                Manny made his name of the best P4P fighter before he fought Oscar or Diaz.
                Would Paull Williams win any credit for beating Manny at 147lb?

                It doesn't make you great to beat a boxer smaller than you. Mayweather is 5'8'' and has been at that weight in his last two fights. How tall do you think Manny is? Manny started his career at 107lbs, Floyd at 130lbs.
                Manny is, did you see how easily Cotto was outboxing SSM at times? Seriously, I'm tellin ya...Pac is a better challenge

                SSM doesn't adapt
                Has a really bad jab

                Be real now...
                Last edited by El Dominicano; 04-13-2009, 11:19 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Fighting Champ View Post
                  Who's more of a dangerous fighter Manny or Mosley?

                  Manny has only had one fight in 135 one at 147 and now one at 140.
                  Manny made his name of the best P4P fighter before he fought Oscar or Diaz.
                  Would Paull Williams win any credit for beating Manny at 147lb?

                  It doesn't make you great to beat a boxer smaller than you. Mayweather is 5'8'' and has been at that weight in his last two fights. How tall do you think Manny is? Manny started his career at 107lbs, Floyd at 130lbs.
                  He didnt become P4P #1 until Floyd retired in 6/2008. He got it by default. He would still be #2 if Mayweather never retired. PAC is 5'6 1/2 and Mayweather is listed at 5'8 so whats the point you are trying to make? And I have stood right next to Floyd and he is not 5'8..

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                  • Originally posted by El Dominicano View Post
                    Manny is, did you see how easily Cotto was outboxing SSM at times? Seriously, I'm tellin ya...Pac is a better challenge

                    SSM doesn't adapt
                    Has a really bad jab

                    Be real now...
                    Manny has survived on pure speed. Nobody knows how good can he take a punch in a higher weight class. People are asking too much of Pacman. He's a small dude. If fans know beating Mosley and other bigger fighters would shut critics up thats what they should ask for. Its not like boxing critics are asking anything special. Mayweathers weighs in 147lbs and so does Mayweather. Make that fight and a few others at 147lbs.

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                    • Originally posted by handler000 View Post
                      He didnt become P4P #1 until Floyd retired in 6/2008. He got it by default. He would still be #2 if Mayweather never retired. PAC is 5'6 1/2 and Mayweather is listed at 5'8 so whats the point you are trying to make? And I have stood right next to Floyd and he is not 5'8..
                      Funny I have a friend from the philippines and he said Manny is more like 5'5''.

                      Anyone saw how slow Marguez looked against Juan Diaz? What weight was that,135. Some fighter just look thick for their weight. Marguez looked heavy at 135lbs Floyd on the other hand was still skinny at 148, 149 when he fought Oscar De La Hoya. If Marquez didn't look good in his fight against J.Diaz why should he look better fighting at a higher weight vs a better fighter than Diaz?

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