Mayweather vs. Marquez Negotiations Stalled on Weight

[QUISQUEYA]

Carlos and Zab were never big draws or even accomplished fighters at that point so whatever scraps Floyd thru them was more than they could make fighting nobody alphabet champions. Come on Baldomir made a whole million dollars for that fight woo hooo big money.


Gatti,Oscar,Hatton were the draws in those fights so it should actually be said that those fighters fans generated the most money for Floyd and not the other way around.

It is interesting for you to say that Gatti and hatton were the draws, How many PPV buys have Gatti and hatton had before or since? If hatton was the draw, why would his promoter (GBP) give mayweather the higher guaranteed purse?

Please explain.

[wichito_one]

Now if it does not happen ****** Boy May better not stall around the ww division. Better fight a good ww and not some bs fight either.

[QUISQUEYA]

Carlos and Zab were never big draws or even accomplished fighters at that point

Did you really say that Zab wasn't an accomplished fighter at that point?

If zab wasn't accomplished for PBF, then why did Miguel Cotto fight him 2 years later? why was Shane gonna fight him 3 years later?

C'mon, playboy.

[$partacus]

Al,

Why do you seem so fixated on "competition at 147" when boxing has clearly moved away from that type of rigidity?

Oscar has fought at 147 to 154 to 160 back to 154 back to 147.
P-Dub is fighting from 147 to 160
Shane has vacillated between 154 and 147.
Pacquiao has fought in 3 divisions in the past year.
Hopkins fought Pavlik at 170 catchweight.
Jones fought Trinidad at 170 catchweight.
Winky fought Hopkins at 170 catchweight.
Pavlik fought Taylor at 166 catchweight.

Many of the biggest fights seem to be happening without regard to the conventional "weight classes" structure. Please share with me why your requirements seem a bit narrow to me.

Whats most of those fights got in common? Most of them had no other big money fights in the divisions they were in. He claims to be the best boxer in the world, but he won't fight the best in the division he fights in?

[Rompeboca]

Once again, Mayweather shows how big of pu$$y he is! He wants to fight at WW but not fight any WW. WTF?

[QUISQUEYA]

Whats most of those fights got in common? Most of them had no other big money fights in the divisions they were in. He claims to be the best boxer in the world, but he won't fight the best in the division he fights in?

That is not true. I'm challenging that. Did you really read that fight listing?

i just don't think that you have followed the business side of the sport very closely. Also, i think that because you don't LIKE mayweather, that colors all of your opinions. You are operating on pure emotion.

You aren't looking at any aspect of this through the prism of objectivity.

[pistol whip]

It is interesting for you to say that Gatti and hatton were the draws, How many PPV buys have Gatti and hatton had before or since? If hatton was the draw, why would his promoter (GBP) give mayweather the higher guaranteed purse?

Please explain.

Julio cesar Chaves JR has fought on ton's of PPV fights but that doesn't mean he is a draw now does it?

Hatton and Gatti were fighting on huge boxing cards and yes they wern't on PPV but they were in front of 20,000 plus people. Hatton fought in front of 40,000 people,when he fought Lazcano last year for christ sake and when has floyd come even close to acheiving that? The fact is the ward fights generated ton's more money and popularity for Gatti that when he fought Floyd he was the hands down fan fav. Hatton was making millions in England in front of huge audiences before he even fought in America.

All the PPV thing means is that Floyd is such a greedy *** that he would rather have people pay for a ****ty card where he fights a ****ty opponent with ****ty PPV numbers than put it on TV for free.

[pistol whip]

Did you really say that Zab wasn't an accomplished fighter at that point?

He did just lose his titles to a journeyman and his biggest win before that was against Corey Spinks of all people.

[$partacus]

That is not true. I'm challenging that. Did you really read that fight listing?

i just don't think that you have followed the business side of the sport very closely. Also, i think that because you don't LIKE mayweather, that colors all of your opinions. You are operating on pure emotion.

You aren't looking at any aspect of this through the prism of objectivity.

What is wrong with wanting the so called best fighter in the world to face the best guys in his weight class? You can make all the excuses you want, but that won't change the opinions of the majority of fans that think he is scared of facing tough competition.

[wichito_one]

Floyd at 130-135 is where he had it going fought anyone who was anyone. Then he moved up to 140 and from there on he has been careful and most of his fights have been ****. He is about the money and not securing a real boxing legacy at these higher weights. His competition is not what it should of been. And the ppl he did fight at these higher weights were not the best of the division. The gatti's,chopchop's,mitchells. Are not fighters that he should of fought. Well maybe gatti moneywise made sense. lol but the dude had not xcuses to fight non elite fighters.Zab judah after carlos baldomir whooped his ass all over the ring? That was a horrible fight he took too. I was glad he took ricky hatton fight and won but then retires. Floyd is a big dissapointment to REAL boxing fans. I say this though if he would of taken more dangerous fights and even if he would of lost them I think ppl would have more respect for him and would appreciate him more.What seperates him from real greats like Sugar Ray Leonard is that leonard fought the BEST that was around him and took very dangerous fights against real top tier fighters imagine if he would of not fought hearns or hagler cuz Oh the money is not right!