Mayweather vs. Marquez Negotiations Stalled on Weight

[Pullcounter]

well in reality, neither of them are in positions to be demanding. marquez isn't a big seller, and floyd is retired and looking for a tune up. IMO he should fight another lower selling fighter that isn't #2 p4p. i mean, the second best fighter shouldn't lower his demands. neither does the biggest seller, so they should just forget about this ever happening and look for other fighters to beat

floyd is in better position.

floyd has a bigger shot at pac than jmm does. for jmm to prevent pac/pbf, he has to beat pbf.

[handler000]

that's irrelevant to what you said. the #1 man in a weight class is the man that fights AND wins AND unifies nearly all belts. he IS the top 135 pound fighter and he has FOUR belts to prove it.

pac doesn't have a single one because he's not a 135 ponder. he vacated the belt and left that weight class, so how is he the top 135 boxer without being a 135 boxer anymore?

Its true JMM is "the man" at 135 but not for unifying the belts its because he beat Casamayor who had The Ring Magazine Title at LW.

[Ido]

Marquez has nothing left to prove at 130 nor 135, that’s the reason he is moving up to 140.

You must be brain dead, if you think Pac-Man pawned JMM 2 times. Both where close fights, Roach himself stated, he never wants to see Manny go into the Kind of WAR he went with JMM ever again.

*** that I want to see those kinds of wars, because the bring out the best of each fighter.

[fdotorres]

If you are the biggest seller you are entitled to demands ask Oscar. Do you honestly think DLH cared about a P4P list? When was the last time DLH split a fight 50-50? The one who puts the ASS** in the seats and sells PPV get to make the demands.

yeah, and the #2 p4p fighter gets to deny those demands

btw, i said to you that floyd DOES have the right to demand whatever he wants because he's the biggest seller, just don't expect the 2nd best boxer out there to just bend, lower his head, and accept being considered a tune up for a retired boxer

i repeat, both guys are doing what they earned the right to do. that's why they should just forget about this fight happening

[VERDUGO]

Mayweather should fight the top dogs at 147, not the ****in' lightweights.
He claims to be the best, then he should fight the best.

[fdotorres]

floyd is in better position.

floyd has a bigger shot at pac than jmm does. for jmm to prevent pac/pbf, he has to beat pbf.

of course floyd has the upper hand. he's got the money, while marquez just has the rank. but guess who's pac going to fight when floyd beats him? that's right, marquez will likely get to fight his man of his dreams (maybe ****, not sure) for a third time

that's why i think they should forget about this

[handler000]

well, floyd won't point a gun at marquez for a fight under his terms (@147), and i doubt that marquez will accept a fight at welter

BTW, marquez said that he was planning to move up to 140 to call out floyd and pac/hatton were the other possibility. explain to me how is he backing out if he clearly said that he was challenging floyd and/or the winner of pac hatton at 140 pounds

he's doing just what he said

Im watching it now and thats not what he said. He said he was moving up in weight to get a fight with PAC. Then he was asked what if PAC doesnt fight. He then said I want to get a fight w/Mayweather because he is the real P4P champ. Never saying what weight.

[handler000]

yeah, and the #2 p4p fighter gets to deny those demands

btw, i said to you that floyd DOES have the right to demand whatever he wants because he's the biggest seller, just don't expect the 2nd best boxer out there to just bend, lower his head, and accept being considered a tune up for a retired boxer

i repeat, both guys are doing what they earned the right to do. that's why they should just forget about this fight happening

How many demands did Floyd get from Oscar when Floyd was the #1 P4P?? I understand you want to push the P4P status but it doesnt hold water in a negotiation.

[boxaholic]

[QUOTE=fdotorres;5069138]that's irrelevant to what you said. the #1 man in a weight class is the man that fights AND wins AND unifies nearly all belts. he IS the top 135 pound fighter and he has FOUR belts to prove it.

pac doesn't have a single one because he's not a 135 ponder. he vacated the belt and left that weight class, so how is he the top 135 boxer without being a 135 boxer anymore?[/QUOTE

So Pac is the man at 140 if he beats Hatton. Nope he is the man at any weight class. He is #1 P4P. He beat JMM. Pac owns JMM.

[fdotorres]

Im watching it now and thats not what he said. He said he was moving up in weight to get a fight with PAC. Then he was asked what if PAC doesnt fight. He then said I want to get a fight w/Mayweather because he is the real P4P champ. Never saying what weight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0cySqDkhL0