Mayweather vs. Marquez Negotiations Stalled on Weight

[Pullcounter]

of course floyd has the upper hand. he's got the money, while marquez just has the rank. but guess who's pac going to fight when floyd beats him? that's right, marquez will likely get to fight his man of his dreams (maybe ****, not sure) for a third time

that's why i think they should forget about this

yeah, but then jmm won't get to cash in on a floyd fight.

[fdotorres]

So Pac is the man at 140 if he beats Hatton. Nope he is the man at any weight class. He is #1 P4P. He beat JMM. Pac owns JMM.

when exactly did he owned him? everyone agrees that they had two wars that could've gone either way. credit goes to pac for winning the second one, but he never owned him so... what are you talking about?

[handler000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0cySqDkhL0

He said he would fight him at 140 or a little bit above that. I have no problem with a catch weight of 143

[fdotorres]

yeah, but then jmm won't get to cash in on a floyd fight.

no, but if he takes the fight, he will likely be further away from fighting pac, even if pac later loses to floyd

that's his dilemma. money vs trilogy with pac. i think that he'll walk away if the fight isn't made at 140-143

[fdotorres]

He said he would fight him at 140 or a little bit above that. I have no problem with a catch weight of 143

me neither, but floyd, marquez, or both of them do

[boxaholic]

when exactly did he owned him? everyone agrees that they had two wars that could've gone either way. credit goes to pac for winning the second one, but he never owned him so... what are you talking about?

Pac owns JMM. Pac beat JMM the 1st time without a judges error. True. Pac moved on and beat the greats Morales, Barrera, De La Hoya. Pac is #1 P4P. Pac has had 2 mega PPV fights in his last 2 fights. Pac is an Icon in his country.

JMM loses to John. Beats a old Cassamayor, a young bull that got manhandled by Nate Campbell. Not even the top 3 boxer in Mexico according to the fans and $. JMM is chasing Pac for a chance at a 3rd fight.

Again Pac owns JMM.

[fdotorres]

Pac owns JMM. Pac beat JMM the 1st time without a judges error. True. Pac moved on and beat the greats Morales, Barrera, De La Hoya. Pac is #1 P4P. Pac has had 2 mega PPV fights in his last 2 fights. Pac is an Icon in his country.

JMM loses to John. Beats a old Cassamayor, a young bull that got manhandled by Nate Campbell. Not even the top 3 boxer in Mexico according to the fans and $. JMM is chasing Pac for a chance at a 3rd fight.

Again Pac owns JMM.

so, lets suppose the judges gave that point to pac

he beat him by a single point in two wars that could have gone either way

how did he own him? what mexican is currently better ranked that marquez? didn't you say that pac is the man because he's #1 p4p? then is pac an undercover mexican?

seriously, get over yourself. i know you're a marquez hater, but try making a little sense at least

[boxaholic]

so, lets suppose the judges gave that point to pac

he beat him by a single point in two wars that could have gone either way

how did he own him? what mexican is currently better ranked that marquez? didn't you say that pac is the man because he's #1 p4p? then is pac an undercover mexican?

seriously, get over yourself. i know you're a marquez hater, but try making a little sense at least

JMM is getting hated on because he is calling out FLOYD and then trying to set rules. He should have said Larry I want FLOYD at 140 only. He had a 2nd chance at Pacman but decided he was worth more and took alot less to lose to Chris John. JMM is the best Mexican fighter out there now but that aint saying much. In drawing power a untested bum JCC JR. and Platerito would do better than JMM. SAD AND TRUE.

[fdotorres]

JMM is getting hated on because he is calling out FLOYD and then trying to set rules. He should have said Larry I want FLOYD at 140 only. He had a 2nd chance at Pacman but decided he was worth more and took alot less to lose to Chris John. JMM is the best Mexican fighter out there now but that aint saying much. In drawing power a untested bum JCC JR. and Platerito would do better than JMM. SAD AND TRUE.

he said that he'd fight mayweather at 140 or a LITTLE more above 140 (142-144)

here, educate yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0cySqDkhL0

EDIT: margarito doesn't have any drawing power for the time being. like i said, educate yourself because you're not making ANY sense. i'm done with you

[Dave Rado]

Rado. Who is the subject in the question I asked PAC or DLH? So therefore the legacy I was refering to would have been whom?

The point is that DLH was the fighter from the higher weight class, not Pac. In this fight, Mayweather is the fighter from the higher weight class. So beating JMM at any weight above 140 would do nothing for his legacy, just as beating Pac would have done nothing for DLH's legacy.

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