Can a Klitschko still be an ATG?

[PRPOWERPUNCHES]

The Klitschkos ARE all-time greats.

But no matter what they do or who they beat, the Klitschkos will never be considered all-time greats because of their skin is the wrong color and because they come from the wrong country.

The "experts" will just say their opponents are no good, no matter who they beat.

Right now there's a lot of excitement about David Haye, but he'll be despised and called a bum (the way Ray Austin and all the others were) after Wlad KOs him.

I can honestly say, I don’t think Klitschkos would've been able to stick with the fighters of the 60’s-70’s-80’s.

I never considered the Klitschkos an ATG.

[Komander]

The Klitschkos just need to fight each other.

I know this will never happen but the winner would be closer to ATG status.

[ßringer]

All those fighters except for Langford and Lewis have been discredited by the media in recent years.

According to Kellerman, Farhood, Atlas and others, there has never been a ATG white fighter.

Kellerman, Farhood, and Atlas aren't the "be all, end all" voice of boxing.

You base your entire argument on what? The opinion of 3 moronic commentators?

[StarshipTrooper]

All those fighters except for Langford and Lewis have been discredited by the media in recent years.

The media is a joke. You listen to them at your peril.

According to Kellerman, Farhood, Rosenthal, Raskin, Atlas and others, there has never been a ATG white fighter.

Please back up your claims as I seriously doubt any of them EVER said anything remotely like that.

Poet

[BattlingNelson]

That right there just tells you what a sad state the division is currently in.

That Wlad would need to gain respect by knocking out a Cruiserweight who he outweighs by 30lbs. A cruiserweight who's been dropped multiple times, and TKO'd by Carl Thompson.

In a historical perspective beating the top guy from the class below can mean a lot. It did for Joe Louis when he beat Billy Conn. Also Holmes-Spinks and Holyfield was considered the main threat to Tyson when he was a cruiserweight so I don't buy your argument sorry.

[Silencers]

Maybe, but these things are best discussed after a fighter is retired when you can go back and look through a fighters' entire career without any bias.

[ßringer]

In a historical perspective beating the top guy from the class below can mean a lot. It did for Joe Louis when he beat Billy Conn. Also Holmes-Spinks and Holyfield was considered the main threat to Tyson when he was a cruiserweight so I don't buy your argument sorry.

I see your point.

But I'd rate Billy Conn, Leon Spinks, and Evander Holyfield as much tougher tasks than David Haye.

[Chase8400]

No. Vitali is not quite good enough and Wlad would be a prison ***** in a decent Heavyweight era. Vitali reminds me of Gerry Cooney without as good a left hook and Wlad reminds me of, well just about every glass-jawed no stamina fighter that's come down the pike. ATGs do not get KTFO by Ross Purrity.

Poet

Do they get KTFO by Rahman or McCall? And I mean really KTFO?

Wladimir did get up you know. Lewis was far more hurt than Wlad was and he is currently considered an ATG.

[MANGLER]

Nope. Cuz there ain't a lotta anmes at HW, they'd both have to reign for many yrs Bhop style to become ATG's and no, there ain't enuf time left for em to do it imo.

[TheGreatA]

Wladimir more so than Vitali unless he turns out to be one of those fighters who can keep going even in his 40's which I doubt.