Roach: We'll Fight Mayweather at Catchweight!!

[Benny Leonard]

Exactly what I was saying yesterday -- "Manny won't fight Floyd at 147 -- no way."

It's admitting you are scared to fight a healthy fighter...not good.

Pac already has advantages over this version of Floyd...that's enough.

[S A M U R A I]

because it is respect for a 30+ year old fighter, that has been inactive for a year, and by fight time, may be close to two...and was the P4P King when he left.

So make the fight fair and don't try to steal it. Plus, no telling where Floyd is at.

Leonard came back off a two year layoff and it hurt him...he won, but he was knocked on his ass and didn't feel he fought at his best, so he retired. Of course he would come back out of retirement and then come back to squeak by a faded Hagler...but he had to fight a faded Hagler and fight a certain way to win.

I think Pac should retire within the next two years before he fades...even though he is still in his Prime and very active...which is always good. But go out on top.

Move on. **** changes.



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[Benny Leonard]

Move on. **** changes.

Then NO fight. I'm sick of people like Freddie always trying to beat a fighter on the scales. As a fan, I don't want to pay for it.

There is no problem with making the fight at 147.

How come it was alright for the then P4P King Floyd Mayweather Jr. to fight Oscar at a healthy weight of 154 but Pac, NO.

Will Pac be at 140 by fight time?
Will Floyd?

Where will they be at?

Tell me what is the point of making a fight at 140 if no fighter shows up at 140 by fight time?

[S A M U R A I]

Then NO fight. I'm sick of people like Freddie always trying to beat a fighter on the scales. As a fan, I don't want to pay for it.

There is no problem with making the fight at 147.

How come it was alright for the then P4P King Floyd Mayweather Jr. to fight Oscar at a healthy weight of 154 but Pac, NO.

Will Pac be at 140 by fight time?
Will Floyd?

Where will they be at?

Tell me what is the point of making a fight at 140 if no fighter shows up at 140 by fight time?

No Benny. I can't be bothered to argue about it. I've stated my opinion -- do it on Manny's terms and don't let spoilt brat Floyd get his own way -- and that's all I'm saying.



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[shadeyfizzle]

Then NO fight. I'm sick of people like Freddie always trying to beat a fighter on the scales. As a fan, I don't want to pay for it.

There is no problem with making the fight at 147.

How come it was alright for the then P4P King Floyd Mayweather Jr. to fight Oscar at a healthy weight of 154 but Pac, NO.

Will Pac be at 140 by fight time?
Will Floyd?

Where will they be at?

Tell me what is the point of making a fight at 140 if no fighter shows up at 140 by fight time?

Because Oscar was the box-office king while Floyd was known only to the most hardcore of boxing fans.

You think fighting Oscar at 154 was Floyd's choice?? Oscar dictated the contract terms and the only way Floyd was getting his 20million dollar paycheck was at 154.

The only difference between Floyd and Manny's fights with Oscar was that it would have been ludicrous for Manny to jump from 135 to 154 but Oscar wanted the fight so there had to be some compromise in it.

[NoFear24]

Then NO fight. I'm sick of people like Freddie always trying to beat a fighter on the scales. As a fan, I don't want to pay for it.

There is no problem with making the fight at 147.

How come it was alright for the then P4P King Floyd Mayweather Jr. to fight Oscar at a healthy weight of 154 but Pac, NO.

Will Pac be at 140 by fight time?
Will Floyd?

Where will they be at?

Tell me what is the point of making a fight at 140 if no fighter shows up at 140 by fight time?

Floyd fought 3 fights at 147 before he moved up one division to fight Oscar. Manny moved up 2 division to fight Oscar at 147. They both moved down a certain weight. What, did you want Manny to jump up 3 divisions to fight Oscar? No one knew how Manny would look at that weight. Manny was already at a disadvantage moving up that high. Oscar was the one that was supposed to destroy Manny remember.

As long as they make the fight, I really don't care what weight its at. Just make it happen.

[Benny Leonard]

No Benny. I can't be bothered to argue about it. I've stated my opinion -- do it on Manny's terms and don't let spoilt brat Floyd get his own way -- and that's all I'm saying.

There is no argument...just answer my questions because if you can't, you show you have no legit reasonable answer.

And all I'm saying do it for the fans and make a fight between two healthy fighters.

If I pay to see a Lion fight a Tiger, I want to make sure both animals are healthy and ready...and not that one of them had been starving for a year.

If Pac can fight at 147 for Oscar, he can fight at 147 for Floyd.

Floyd catered to Oscar and made the fight at 154...yet Pac did not.

One fighter looks spoiled and it is not Floyd in this case.

[Benny Leonard]

Floyd fought 3 fights at 147 before he moved up one division to fight Oscar. Manny moved up 2 division to fight Oscar at 147. They both moved down a certain weight. What, did you want Manny to jump up 3 divisions to fight Oscar? No one knew how Manny would look at that weight. Manny was already at a disadvantage moving up that high. Oscar was the one that was supposed to destroy Manny remember.

As long as they make the fight, I really don't care what weight its at. Just make it happen.

Considering Manny could no longer make 135, his new weight was at 140. He showed up at his previous fight (prior to Oscar) around 145 by fight time...which is what some posters bitched about. They noted Manny's weight and Floyd's weight by fight time...given the difference in divisions they were fighting.

Oscar coming down in weight is a bigger disadvantage than Manny moving up. Why? because Oscar hadn't made that weight in 7 years and moved up past 147 for a reason; he had trouble making it. So what happened when he got himself to make the weight for Pac; he killed himself. Manny moving up wasn't really that much. He was 145 by fight time in his previous fight and put on a few pounds for this fight by fight time. Not that big of a deal.

Freddie called; remember?

And what did Freddie say about Oscar's weight afterwards?



Floyd hasn't fought at 140 for about 3 years. By fight time, it could be 4.

[shadeyfizzle]

There is no argument...just answer my questions because if you can't, you show you have no legit reasonable answer.

And all I'm saying do it for the fans and make a fight between two healthy fighters.

If I pay to see a Lion fight a Tiger, I want to make sure both animals are healthy and ready...and not that one of them had been starving for a year.

If Pac can fight at 147 for Oscar, he can fight at 147 for Floyd.

Floyd catered to Oscar and made the fight at 154...yet Pac did not.

One fighter looks spoiled and it is not Floyd in this case.

As he's stated many times Manny will fight anyone at any weightclass. I doubt the weight matters as much to Manny as it does to Roach. He's only protecting his fighter. Other than having the benefit of being active this year and slightly younger...I fail to see what advantages Pacquiao would have over Mayweather other than being able to dictate the weightclass they fight in

[Espada]

There is no argument...just answer my questions because if you can't, you show you have no legit reasonable answer.

And all I'm saying do it for the fans and make a fight between two healthy fighters.

If I pay to see a Lion fight a Tiger, I want to make sure both animals are healthy and ready...and not that one of them had been starving for a year.

If Pac can fight at 147 for Oscar, he can fight at 147 for Floyd.

Floyd catered to Oscar and made the fight at 154...yet Pac did not.

One fighter looks spoiled and it is not Floyd in this case.

You want Pacquiao to moved up from 130 to 154 and fight Oscar?

Floyd was at 147 for a period of time.. Pacquiao was at 130 and had only 1 fight at 135.. Know the difference dumbass