Roach: We'll Fight Mayweather at Catchweight!!

[Left Hook Tua]

Manny kept maturing which is why he kept moving up...according to Freddie.


And NO; I never thought Pac would be fighting at 147.

But, my point still stands: Why make a 30+ year old fighter, who hasn't fought in a year, and by fight time may be two years, have to make a weight he hasn't made in about 3 years, would be going on 4 by fight time?

If you can fight one fighter at 147; you can fight Floyd, who like you say, isn't a natural Welter.

Why go through the charade of making a fighter drain weight for the weigh-in, only to have the fighters put weight back on for fight time? Why not just have them show up by fight-time weight and make sure in the contract it states that no fighter can be over 149?

Floyd comes in around 149 and Pac has shown he goes up towards 147+


Not that hard to figure out...and it's not hard to see what Freddie is trying to do.

i understand what you're saying.

freddie is doing what is best for his fighter though. he got a lot of **** from a lot of people but i seriously think freddie is a good guy and good trainer/advisor.

to me at 140 or 147 makes no difference. (i think floyd would beat manny in either weight division)

[NoFear24]

You don't get the point do you?

If Pac can fight Oscar at 147, why not fight little Floyd at 147. Both fighters will just gain weight by fight time anyway, so what's the point of making fighters drain weight for the charade of acting like it is a 140 fight?

Floyd's all muscle anyway and hasn't fought at 140 since Gatti...oh, just like Oscar's last time.

Roach is only doing this to get another advantage for Manny. He knows it will take more out of Floyd than Manny.

You really think Floyd will have trouble making 140? There probably gonna say 142 to 144 or something in that fashion anyways. Hell if Roy can drop 20+ pounds of pure muscle and still win against an Elite Light heavy weight at the time Tarver, then Floyd sure as hell will make this weight much easier then Roy did. Floyd probably walks around 154 to 160 when hes not working out or anything like that anyways.

We'll see how good Floyd is when he has to fight the weight just like Jones Jr did when he was 34 years old. Floyd is still 31 and has alot more left then Jones did when he was 34. Thats when you will see how truly great Mayweather is if he can win at a disadvantage like that. Besides, 142 to 144 or so is nothing for Maweather. He always comes in small during fight time anyways. Not even a huge disadvantage for Floyd. It may actually help Floyd be faster at that weight then when he fought Hoya at 149. He was much slower at that weight.

Either way, the only way this fight doesn't happen, is if Floyd asks for way too much Money.

[Benny Leonard]

I hope Pacquiao knocks out Hatton in 6 rounds in his natural weight of 140, ****ting all over Mayweather's career.....then retires when Floyd comes challenging him just as Floyd did when Margarito and Cotto came looking 4 him.

Wont karma be a ***** when that happens

Nope. Because people will say: Floyd already knocked Hatton out so Pac is getting sloppy seconds. Then, if Floyd calls out Pac and Pac doesn't bite, Floyd nuthuggers will say Pac was scared of Floyd.

[MaYaN_SuN]

Roach's terrified shakin ass is gonna try and make Mayweather come down to 130 or 135 lmao

[shadeyfizzle]

Nope. Because people will say: Floyd already knocked Hatton out so Pac is getting sloppy seconds. Then, if Floyd calls out Pac and Pac doesn't bite, Floyd nuthuggers will say Pac was scared of Floyd.

I think Pacquiao being the only 4 division lineal champ in history and a surefire shoe-in for top 10 greatest of all time while Floyd will never get a crack at it 4 being a "shrewd businessman" for so many years will comfort Pacquiao and pacfans somehow

[NoFear24]

Roach's terrified shakin ass is gonna try and make Mayweather come down to 130 or 135 lmao

why the hell would he do that. Pac can barely make that weight anymore himeself.

[Benny Leonard]

You really think Floyd will have trouble making 140? There probably gonna say 142 to 144 or something in that fashion anyways. Hell if Roy can drop 20+ pounds of pure muscle and still win against an Elite Light heavy weight at the time Tarver, then Floyd sure as hell will make this weight much easier then Roy did. Floyd probably walks around 154 to 160 when hes not working out or anything like that anyways.

We'll see how good Floyd is when he has to fight the weight just like Jones Jr did when he was 34 years old. Floyd is still 31 and has alot more left then Jones did when he was 34. Thats when you will see how truly great Mayweather is if he can win at a disadvantage like that. Besides, 142 to 144 or so is nothing for Maweather. He always comes in small during fight time anyways. Not even a huge disadvantage for Floyd. It may actually help Floyd be faster at that weight then when he fought Hoya at 149. He was much slower at that weight.

Either way, the only way this fight doesn't happen, is if Floyd asks for way too much Money.

Yeah, I acutally think RIGHT NOW, Floyd may have a bit of trouble. I think it was Roger that said Floyd can't make 140 for the weigh-ins, which is why he would only fight at 147 now. Floyd's all muscle so any weight lost, would be draining. He's to old for that ****. Any fighter over 30 especially, will start to have problems. It's why Pac moved up from 135; Freddie wants him to be healthy.

Seriously, do you understand my point that there is no point in making a fighter drain weight just for the weigh-in when both fighters will be at Welterweight anyway by fight time?

Now, if Freddie wants to put in the contract that both fighters can't be above a certain weight that comes under 147; I would say "**** You Freddie."

Just FIGHT the FIGHT in the RING; not on the Scales.

I really don't get why it's so hard to understand.

It has NO effect on Manny since he shows up to fights at 147+ and so does Floyd. NO WEIGH-INS just for the charade of it all. I want to see both fighters healthy. It prevents excuses with weight issues.



ROY BECAME SHOT BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT LOSS. Did you see the first Tarver fight? He reminded me of that scene in Back To The Future when Marty looked at the picture of his family and they started to fade. That was Roy. The Scene where Marty looked and his brother was gone; that was Roy in the second fight.

[Left Hook Tua]

Roach's terrified shakin ass is gonna try and make Mayweather come down to 130 or 135 lmao

very tasteless , mayan.

[Benny Leonard]

I think Pacquiao being the only 4 division lineal champ in history and a surefire shoe-in for top 10 greatest of all time while Floyd will never get a crack at it 4 being a "shrewd businessman" for so many years will comfort Pacquiao and pacfans somehow

He is an ATG for sure. But the losses and two KO victories may haunt him. If he was past his prime, sure, we could accept it better. Are there reasons: yeah, probably.

was he a 4 division "lineal" champ???

Which divisions...refresh.

[shadeyfizzle]

He is an ATG for sure. But the losses and two KO victories may haunt him. If he was past his prime, sure, we could accept it better. Are there reasons: yeah, probably.

was he a 4 division "lineal" champ???

Which divisions...refresh.

Pacquiao's 1st world title at 112 was a lineal title

Pacquiao should be a 5 division champion today because when he beat Barrera he was the lineal champion at 126 despite giving up his belt.

Lineal title at 130 when he beat Marquez earlier this year.

So to recap he's currently 3 division lineal champ

Hatton is currently the lineal 140 champion.

If Pacquiao beats hatton CONVINCINGLY...then it will completely overshadow Floyd's beatdown of Hatton(sloppy seconds or not) because it's at Hatton's preferred weight of 140 and for physical hardware as well as making Pacquiao the only 4 division lineal champion in the history of the sport. Doing so will definitely put him in the top 10 greatest of all time in the opinions of many boxing historians.