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  • Espada
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    #101
    Originally posted by TURKOGLU
    Everybody knows coming down in weight is alot more difficult than going up in weight.

    That being said, I doubt it's going to matter any.
    So you mean the 44 year old Bernard Hopkins moved down 5lbs to beat the sh!it of out a 25 year old undefeated Pavlik?

    By the way, the Forbes fight was at 150 and Oscar made the stipulation of 147 against Pac.. Moving down 1 division is very hard especially when you are fighting some 5'6 130 pounder who fought at minimumweight before.

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      #102
      Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
      Roach's terrified shakin ass is gonna try and make Mayweather come down to 130 or 135 lmao
      Nope. He's not team Margarito that's scared to rematch Williams.

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      • TURKOGLU
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        #103
        Pacquiao is actually smart with the whole weight thing, because nobody remembers the weight issues when it's all said and done.

        On the books, you will just see it as Manny Pacquiao beat Oscar De La Hoya in 8 rounds.

        Nobody will talk about the weight-factor 20 years from now.

        Just like how Sugar Ray Leonard knocked out Donny Lalonde for the Light-Heavyweight title in a fight held at a catch weight.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Espada
          So you mean the 44 year old Bernard Hopkins moved down 5lbs to beat the sh!it of out a 25 year old undefeated Pavlik?

          By the way, the Forbes fight was at 150 and Oscar made the stipulation of 147 against Pac.. Moving down 1 division is very hard especially when you are fighting some 5'6 130 pounder who fought at minimumweight before.
          Huh!!!??

          Just like Roach said, "OSCAR IS A PART-TIME FIGHTER..."

          But besides all this numbers bull**** you and I are talking..
          Did you not see the state of Oscar De La Hoya in that fight?

          I'm not taking anything away from Pacquiao, because he did do his job...
          But seriously... De La Hoya was pushing his punches.
          And did you see De La Hoya's defense? It was non-existant.
          He looked drained and tired.

          If you seriously think Pacquiao beat a De La Hoya that was in fighting shape, you need to get your head checked.

          But props to Pacquiao. He did his job.
          The way his opponent comes into the ring isn't his fault.

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          • Benny Leonard
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            #105
            Originally posted by Espada
            So What's the point? Pac started at 108 and knocking out someone at 147..
            Pac had 1 catchweight fight and that was against Oscar.. Oscar's last fight was at 150 against Forbes and he made the stipulations and never complained about it.

            and by the way Hatton was like 143-144 during the weighin against Floyd.
            Pac was also knocked out twice back in the day so it shows where Pac was at back then with his "108" weight. Freddie called him a boy. I was 108 once too.
            KO loss at flyweight and under.

            Freddie wants a possible "catch-weight" fight with Floyd...that would make two.

            Oscar does a lot of catch-weight fights; I'm not talking about Oscar.

            And Hatton weighed...so; what's your point?
            Hatton's team wanted him to come in lighter so that he could be faster. What was the weight by fight time?

            The fight was at 147; no need to drain. It gave Ricky the option do what he wanted.


            Ricky was 145 for the weigh-in; Floyd, 147.

            Last edited by Benny Leonard; 12-09-2008, 08:45 AM.

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              #106
              Originally posted by The_Bringer
              So Manny can fight a 154 pounder at 147lbs, so long as he drains himself to skeletal status. Now they want Floyd to do the same?
              Mayweather is not a 154 pounder. PBF can make 147 easily.

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                #107
                Originally posted by TURKOGLU
                Huh!!!??

                Just like Roach said, "OSCAR IS A PART-TIME FIGHTER..."

                But besides all this numbers bull**** you and I are talking..
                Did you not see the state of Oscar De La Hoya in that fight?

                I'm not taking anything away from Pacquiao, because he did do his job...
                But seriously... De La Hoya was pushing his punches.
                And did you see De La Hoya's defense? It was non-existant.
                He looked drained and tired.

                If you seriously think Pacquiao beat a De La Hoya that was in fighting shape, you need to get your head checked.

                But props to Pacquiao. He did his job.
                The way his opponent comes into the ring isn't his fault.
                I agree. DLH is a past his prime fighter even at the Mayweather fight.. The weight is also major but how the F U C K could you fight someone who mves from angles and throw 3-4 combination punches.. Not only that Pac had an excellent head movement that even Oscar can't hit..

                Do you think Floyd move side to side? He just stayed o nthe ropes and used his should roll!

                Majority of oscar's opponent in the past don't move and circled around the ring as fast as Pac is. Defense? Does Pac throw like a slow motion replay?

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  Pac was also knocked out twice back in the day so it shows where Pac was at back then with his "108" weight. Freddie called him a boy. I was 108 once too.
                  KO loss at flyweight and under.

                  Freddie wants a possible "catch-weight" fight with Floyd...that would make two.

                  Oscar does a lot of catch-weight fights; I'm not talking about Oscar.

                  And Hatton weighed...so; what's your point?
                  Hatton's team wanted him to come in lighter so that he could be faster. What was the weight by fight time?

                  The fight was at 147; no need to drain. It gave Ricky the option do what he wanted.


                  Ricky was 145 for the weigh-in; Floyd, 147.

                  If Mayweather agree to fight at a catchweight then what's the problem? Just like Oscar and his team never mentioned they had problems making weight.. If Floyd tells someone that he has no problem then what's your point? If Floyd can't make it then he stay retired!

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Espada
                    If Mayweather agree to fight at a catchweight then what's the problem? Just like Oscar and his team never mentioned they had problems making weight.. If Floyd tells someone that he has no problem then what's your point? If Floyd can't make it then he stay retired!
                    If he agrees, he agrees...I would just rather it be at 147 because I think the charade is nonsense.

                    Seriously, if both fighters are going to show up at 149 by fight time, and both fighters fought there last fight at 147; what's the big deal?

                    What's Freddie trying to do if not play psychological warfare?

                    People keep talking about Karma with all these other fighters, like Oscar and Chavez, but Karma hit Freddie hard once; it might do it again.


                    I still don't get what you don't see with the above opinions. Why make the fight lower than 147 given the things I mentioned?

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                    • Espada
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                      If he agrees, he agrees...I would just rather it be at 147 because I think the charade is nonsense.

                      Seriously, if both fighters are going to show up at 149 by fight time, and both fighters fought there last fight at 147; what's the big deal?

                      What's Freddie trying to do if not play psychological warfare?

                      People keep talking about Karma with all these other fighters, like Oscar and Chavez, but Karma hit Freddie hard once; it might do it again.


                      I still don't get what you don't see with the above opinions. Why make the fight lower than 147 given the things I mentioned?
                      As I said If Floyd agrees then what's your problem? Why the F U C K would you agree if you can't make it.. Yeah Pacquiao still has a title at 135.. Mayweather fought at 147.. Putting at 140 or 142 makes it balance for both of them.. (If Mayweather agres and says it's no prob making weight)

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