Is Oscar De La Hoya an all-time great?

[Mr. Fantastic]

I'll say what I have always said in relation to this topic. If Oscar isn't an ATG there certainly aren't very many all time greats.

Exactly!!!

[IMDAZED]

I admit that the one glaring omission from the case for Oscar being an ATG is the lack of a defining "great" win. Having said that he wouldn't be the first ATG lacking this quality. I personally believe that, when examined in total, his accomplishments and resume are strong enough to overcome that omission.

Ehh...I don't. Honestly, I don't even remember him even being considered for this - which is why I'm wondering what he's done to be considered one. In the lower divisions Oscar was the scorn of hardcore fans. He'd always pick up a title (usually against the weak guy in the division) and then run outta there. There was such a huge backlash that he eventually HAD to fight the best at 147. And when he did, he met mixed results. And since then, he's handpicked his way around the sport. Sure I'll fight Hopkins...at 156. Floyd? Move up to junior middle (are u serious??). And he lost both fights BTW.

The sad thing is, we don't even know how much he has left because unlike other fighters, he can just leap into a big fight. But if you notice, he hasn't really looked good against the not-so guys he picked to look good against.(Forbes, Sturm).

So when people say his resume I must ask...who?

[Dorian]

i voted no by a mistake i ment yes, he is

[JAB5239]

Without a doubt a first ballot hall of famer. As far as All time great.......He probably gets inside of the 75 greatest fighters all time list.

[lparm]

Without a doubt a first ballot hall of famer. As far as All time great.......He probably gets inside of the 75 greatest fighters all time list.

I agree he's a HOF'er but come on top 75 all time? When you consider he's never been the best in his division it's hard to say he cracks the top 100 all time.

[ACHlLLES]

Not sure, I lost respect for him when he signed the contract to fight manny pacquiao. I hope Pacquiao ****s oscar up. Also the fact that Oscar said he wanted winner of Cotto/Margarito... But when Margarito won, he wanted no part of it...

[keepthemhandsup]

ehh...its hard to say if he's an all time great....but he defently HOF

[larryx]

Without a doubt a first ballot hall of famer. As far as All time great.......He probably gets inside of the 75 greatest fighters all time list.

maybe top 150 alltime great...maybe

[lparm]

I think he's an ATG when it comes to selling fights so to the mass public then yes they will say he's an ATG. But to fans of the sport who criticize any fighter's career then IMO he has done enough to be an ATG fighter. Look at Leonard as an example, he was the biggest name in the post-Ali years and pre-Tyson years and like DLH he fought the best but Ray beat several ATG's and that's what really separates him from hollywood.

[IMDAZED]

I think he's an ATG when it comes to selling fights so to the mass public then yes they will say he's an ATG. But to fans of the sport who criticize any fighter's career then IMO he has done enough to be an ATG fighter. Look at Leonard as an example, he was the biggest name in the post-Ali years and pre-Tyson years and like DLH he fought the best but Ray beat several ATG's and that's what really separates him from hollywood.

Somehow that doesn't seem to register with people.