Is Oscar De La Hoya an all-time great?

[larryx]

Yup just like Hopkins will fight a blown up Marquez, while ducking Dawson and crying to Calslappy for a rematch. Let's not forget Mayweather, still retired and calling people ***** and calling himself the greatest ever when he hasn't done anything close to SRR/Ali.

pbf the greatest ever????hell no and hopkins>>>>>de la hoya hands down..crying to joe for a rematch???lol he knocked joe down and lost a sd..thats rematch worthy right????ducking dawson come on hes 43 dawsons 26..thats common sense

[IMDAZED]

I get what you're saying, but this can be done with the resume of just about any fighter in history, especially fighters who aren't even arguable as top 25 all time.

Cite examples of an ATG who you can do this with? Because as an ATG, I would think you could at least beat the best in your division. I mean...an ATG could do that right?

[larryx]

If Mayweather is a *****, what does that make the guy who made him move up in weight, forced his glove and ring selection on him...and still lost?

a cross dressing ****?????

[lparm]

Somehow that doesn't seem to register with people.

How? It's true. SRL beat several ATG's it's on record, it's undisputed. DLH fought and lost to several ATG's. The only ATG's he beat were an old and shot JCC and an old Whitaker and even then sweetpea almost beat him. DLH has never beaten a prime or even close to prime ATG. If he beats Manny he'll say he beat an ATG and if he wins he would be right, but beating an ATG that's 3 divisions above his beat weight is a cowards way of padding his record.

[Mr. Fantastic]

pbf the greatest ever????hell no and hopkins>>>>>de la hoya hands down..crying to joe for a rematch???lol he knocked joe down and lost a sd..thats rematch worthy right????ducking dawson come on hes 43 dawsons 26..thats common sense

Sorry didn't mean to bring Floyd up. You joked at DLH so I had to say something...but anyways..........rematch worthy??? Are you Serious??? That fight is one of the ****tiest fights I've ever seen in boxing and it wasn't Calslappy's fault either. He didn't duck Pavlik now did he?? O wait, I know why....Dawson doesn't have to go up in weight.

[larryx]

How? It's true. SRL beat several ATG's it's on record, it's undisputed. DLH fought and lost to several ATG's. The only ATG's he beat were an old and shot JCC and an old Whitaker and even then sweetpea almost beat him. DLH has never beaten a prime or even close to prime ATG. If he beats Manny he'll say he beat an ATG and if he wins he would be right, but beating an ATG that's 3 divisions above his beat weight is a cowards way of padding his record.

this post is 100 percent correct

[Dan...]

Cite examples of an ATG who you can do this with? Because as an ATG, I would think you could at least beat the best in your division. I mean...an ATG could do that right?

I think its definately a debatable topic dude and I think you have a legitimate case. But you gotta remember you can tear down pretty much any fighters resume - look at the **** ppl on here say about Roy Jones' resume. There are ppl who genuinely believe his resume is just full of names and he always dodged the best, etc. You can say Hopkins only fought midgets; Hearns lost all his big fights; Hagler only fought welters and lightweights; Tyson never beat a great fighter; Pacquiao beats up on old shot Mexicans; Floyd ducked the best in his division; etc etc. You can do it with all but a few fighters.

[larryx]

Sorry didn't mean to bring Floyd up. You joked at DLH so I had to say something...but anyways..........rematch worthy??? Are you Serious??? That fight is one of the ****tiest fights I've ever seen in boxing and it wasn't Calslappy's fault either. He didn't duck Pavlik now did he?? O wait, I know why....Dawson doesn't have to go up in weight.

didnt say i enjoyed the fight..but hopkins does have a case that he deserves a rematch...but why doesnt the ring champ who dawson is calling out fight dawson????????????oh hes not 40

[Wales08]

Where is Hoya from?

[larryx]

Where is Hoya from?

california.........u.s.a