Would Calzaghe go through RJJ's resume undeafeated?

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  • Wiley Hyena
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    #41
    Originally posted by wmute
    I totally disagree with the Hopkins part, Jones power and speed were a notch above anyone at 160. I don't see what Calzaghe could bring to the table, he'd be slower less powerful and would take the fight too aggressively. Jones could win the fight by potshotting, because even one punch at a time from him, was a big danger at 160 (Even a younger healthy wrists Calzaghe is still far in the power department).

    That's not Calzaghe style: he likes to fight, he throws many punches, and ends up eating right hands, and there would be a lot coming, even by the so called "green" Hopkins.

    I also disagree with Jones' not being good against southpaws. 8-0 before moving up to heavy. I don't think that would be the closest fight in Jones' career, I think the Hopkins one woulds still have been the closest up to Tarver 1.

    As for Nunn, Toney did what he did also because his defense and chin are both all time material, cant say the same for JC, so it's not clear to me that Joe gets to the later rounds without being hurt and slowed down himself.
    You "can't say the same for JC??" ROFL!

    Calzaghe has a great defense and chin. If you can't believe your lying eyes, who can you believe? Well, I guess 46-0 says it all.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      Are you kidding? Ruiz was a JOKE. Mayweather could have outpointed that cry baby. Ruiz was a terrible fighter. He got lucky because he got to fight a washed up Holyfield, and made somewhat of a name for himself.

      Prime Calzaghe would have made mincemeat out of the likes of John Ruiz. An easy all points victory at the very least.
      wtf, you are being unrealistic man, calzaghe would'nt even be able to get past ruiz's defence

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        #43
        Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
        You "can't say the same for JC??" ROFL!

        Calzaghe has a great defense and chin. If you can't believe your lying eyes, who can you believe? Well, I guess 46-0 says it all.

        a fighter with world class defense... doesnt get put on his ass by senior citizens' counters.

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        • wmute
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          #44
          Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
          Are you kidding? Ruiz was a JOKE. Mayweather could have outpointed that cry baby. Ruiz was a terrible fighter. He got lucky because he got to fight a washed up Holyfield, and made somewhat of a name for himself.

          Prime Calzaghe would have made mincemeat out of the likes of John Ruiz. An easy all points victory at the very least.
          Ruiz beat a ton of good HWs.

          Prime Calzaghe would have been stopped by Ruiz, get off his nuts.

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            #45
            Hop,toney,Hill and maybe Harding would have beaten him. not to mention Ruiz.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              Are you kidding? Ruiz was a JOKE. Mayweather could have outpointed that cry baby. Ruiz was a terrible fighter. He got lucky because he got to fight a washed up Holyfield, and made somewhat of a name for himself.
              Prime Calzaghe would have made mincemeat out of the likes of John Ruiz. An easy all points victory at the very least.
              Sounds alot like Calzaghe

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                #47
                Originally posted by wmute
                Ruiz beat a ton of good HWs.

                Prime Calzaghe would have been stopped by Ruiz, get off his nuts.
                Who is on who's nuts? Anybody that thinks John Ruiz was even a decent heavyweight is the one that's nuts. That was one of the most overrated wins in Roy's entire career. Yes, he beat a heavyweight. That's about it. Honestly. There are other opponents on Roy's resume that one could point to, such as a young James Toney, that would have given Calzaghe alot of problems. Ruiz is not one of those.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                  Who is on who's nuts? Anybody that thinks John Ruiz was even a decent heavyweight is the one that's nuts. That was one of the most overrated wins in Roy's entire career. Yes, he beat a heavyweight. That's about it. Honestly. There are other opponents on Roy's resume that one could point to, such as a young James Toney, that would have given Calzaghe alot of problems. Ruiz is not one of those.
                  It is ludicrous that you think Calzaghe would beat Ruiz. Ruiz would just walk through anything Joe lands of him, but what do you know? It's boxing, clearly you dont get much of this sport

                  And... at the end of the day Ruiz might be boring as **** but he has plenty of wins and close fights against real opposition... at HW. That's more than you can say about most of Calzaghe's opposition... at 168.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by bsrizpac
                    I'm so glad Joe is around so we can get amazing insight from his "fans". this stuff is comedy gold.
                    Yeah no ****. I personally LIKE Calzaghe and think he's a terrific fighter but I swear his Kool Aid drinking nuthugging fan-boys are starting to get about as obnoxious as the Tyson rim-jobbers. Cripes 'o Friday you'd think Calzaghe had golden balls the way these dudes lick them! I get the feeling these are the same losers that riot at soccer games.

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                      #50
                      He would lose to Hopkins, Toney and definitely against Ruiz. No way that slapping workrate holds up against a heavy handed 200 pounder.

                      Lets look at from another point of view. RJJ turned pro in what 1988 and Joe at 1992.

                      If Roy had turned pro in 1992 and fought all the same opponents that Joe has fought, would've went unbeaten too. All the way up to the Kessler fight.

                      Now against B-hop in 2008, he would've struggled but probably won a tight decision like he did when they fought in the 90's. A Roy Jones who fought his entiere career at 168, defending his WBO title and only moving up to light-heavy for Hopkins, would be a much better 39 year old fighter then the one who went from 160 to heavyweight and all the way back down to 175.

                      TRUST.

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