Would Calzaghe go through RJJ's resume undeafeated?

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  • KostyaTszyu44
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    #51
    Originally posted by Vladimir303
    He would lose to Hopkins, Toney and definitely against Ruiz. No way that slapping workrate holds up against a heavy handed 200 pounder.

    Lets look at from another point of view. RJJ turned pro in what 1988 and Joe at 1992.

    If Roy had turned pro in 1992 and fought all the same opponents that Joe has fought, would've went unbeaten too. All the way up to the Kessler fight.

    Now against B-hop in 2008, he would've struggled but probably won a tight decision like he did when they fought in the 90's. A Roy Jones who fought his entiere career at 168, defending his WBO title and only moving up to light-heavy for Hopkins, would be a much better 39 year old fighter then the one who went from 160 to heavyweight and all the way back down to 175.

    TRUST.

    good work, i like that analysis

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      #52
      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      You "can't say the same for JC??" ROFL!

      Calzaghe has a great defense and chin. If you can't believe your lying eyes, who can you believe? Well, I guess 46-0 says it all.
      his defense and punch resistance are highly suspect at 175. moving up to heavyweight im sure would make it better?

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      • OptimusWolf
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        #53
        wtf have big muscles got to do with it. Calzaghe is a bigger stronger man than Jones. Watch them fight ffs.

        Not saying he would have beaten Ruiz mind, but it wouldn't have been because he is smaller than Roy.

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          #54
          Originally posted by OptimusWolf
          wtf have big muscles got to do with it. Calzaghe is a bigger stronger man than Jones. Watch them fight ffs.

          Not saying he would have beaten Ruiz mind, but it wouldn't have been because he is smaller than Roy.
          if he's so big how come hes a lil wimp with a pillow punch.

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            #55
            I think he could. Lets face it, Roys resume isnt as great as people make out. I think Joe beat a better Hopkins than the one Roy did. A 100% Toney would give Joe hell, no doubt but the Toney that fought Roy looked very sloppy and couldnt pull the trigger. I think Joe wouldve just outworked him.

            The only question over Ruiz is how Joe would carry the extra weight. Ruiz is ****e, its not even a contest skill wise. He isnt the biggest heavyweight (didnt he start at LHW?) and hasnt got great power. If Joe could maintain some of his speed and punch output, he could make it look easy.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              I think he could. Lets face it, Roys resume isnt as great as people make out. I think Joe beat a better Hopkins than the one Roy did. A 100% Toney would give Joe hell, no doubt but the Toney that fought Roy looked very sloppy and couldnt pull the trigger. I think Joe wouldve just outworked him.
              LOL @ the bold

              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              The only question over Ruiz is how Joe would carry the extra weight. Ruiz is ****e, its not even a contest skill wise. He isnt the biggest heavyweight (didnt he start at LHW?) and hasnt got great power. If Joe could maintain some of his speed and punch output, he could make it look easy.
              LOL @ the bold

              Punch output aint doing **** for Joe's at HW, because Ruiz would not even feel even remotely checked by those slaps. Jones' rights were enough to get attention stopped him in his track. A light hitting middleweight with a less than excellent defense, should not even think about keeping a high workrate at HW, because that means getting caught at some point.

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              • Wiley Hyena
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                #57
                Originally posted by wmute
                LOL @ the bold



                LOL @ the bold

                Punch output aint doing **** for Joe's at HW, because Ruiz would not even feel even remotely checked by those slaps. Jones' rights were enough to get attention stopped him in his track. A light hitting middleweight with a less than excellent defense, should not even think about keeping a high workrate at HW, because that means getting caught at some point.
                Just because Ruiz was 200+ does not mean his chin was better. That's just ******. Calzaghe's punch output and elusiveness would have been more than enough to defeat any fighter the caliber of John Ruiz. Look at what Cal's punches did to Lacey (basically ended his legitimate career) and Jones (bloody mess). Ruiz only chance against Calzaghe would have been to catch him with a heavy knockout shot. Only problem is that Ruiz was NOT a heavy puncher.

                No. No. You Jones nuthuggers are off in dreamland. Ruiz was the most overrated win in Jones' entire career. THE ONLY win on Jones' resume that causes problems for Calzaghe is young James Toney. That's it, folks. The Hopkins that Calzaghe defeated was better than the Hopkins that Jones defeated. Keep it real.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by wmute
                  LOL @ the bold



                  LOL @ the bold

                  Punch output aint doing **** for Joe's at HW, because Ruiz would not even feel even remotely checked by those slaps. Jones' rights were enough to get attention stopped him in his track. A light hitting middleweight with a less than excellent defense, should not even think about keeping a high workrate at HW, because that means getting caught at some point.
                  That's just his usual piss poor analysis. It's so dumb and off point there's little point in even laughing at him.
                  Remember the guy thought Nigel Benn was more a harder hitter than Ruiz.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    Just because Ruiz was 200+ does not mean his chin was better. That's just ******. Calzaghe's punch output and elusiveness would have been more than enough to defeat any fighter the caliber of John Ruiz. Look at what Cal's punches did to Lacey (basically ended his legitimate career) and Jones (bloody mess). Ruiz only chance against Calzaghe would have been to catch him with a heavy knockout shot. Only problem is that Ruiz was NOT a heavy puncher.

                    No. No. You Jones nuthuggers are off in dreamland. Ruiz was the most overrated win in Jones' entire career. THE ONLY win on Jones' resume that causes problems for Calzaghe is young James Toney. That's it, folks. The Hopkins that Calzaghe defeated was better than the Hopkins that Jones defeated. Keep it real.
                    Keep it real? Here's real: You're a spamming troll.

                    Jones was shot. Why don't YOU keep it real and mention that dip****.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                      Just because Ruiz was 200+ does not mean his chin was better. That's just ******. Calzaghe's punch output and elusiveness would have been more than enough to defeat any fighter the caliber of John Ruiz. Look at what Cal's punches did to Lacey (basically ended his legitimate career) and Jones (bloody mess). Ruiz only chance against Calzaghe would have been to catch him with a heavy knockout shot. Only problem is that Ruiz was NOT a heavy puncher.

                      No. No. You Jones nuthuggers are off in dreamland. Ruiz was the most overrated win in Jones' entire career. THE ONLY win on Jones' resume that causes problems for Calzaghe is young James Toney. That's it, folks. The Hopkins that Calzaghe defeated was better than the Hopkins that Jones defeated. Keep it real.
                      idiot

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