Why do some people hate Joe Calzaghe?

[Arka]

Going off the original "reasons" why Americans disliked Calzaghe, after the Jones fight they should no longer hate him. Mark my words, this will not be the case. These people are so bitter, rather than giving the man the respect he deserves they'll just look for any kind of reasons they can find to dismiss him. I can guarentee you, after Calzaghe beats Jones, the main arguments people will try to use against Joe is that he didn't fight in America enough and/or he didn't fight enough top fighters in their prime. It is a situation he can't really win either way.
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It's a situation he can't win,because it's true.
It's the difference between him and a Nigel Benn.

[hammerhiem]

It's a situation he can't win,because it's true.
It's the difference between him and a Nigel Benn.

No the difference between Calzaghe and Benn is that Benn had 4-5 really good fighters at his weight class over a period of 3-4 years that he made his reputation on and Joe had Ottke.

[Arka]

No the difference between Calzaghe and Benn is that Benn had 4-5 really good fighters at his weight class over a period of 3-4 years that he made his reputation on and Joe had Ottke.

Joe could have made those big fights years ago.It may have meant he lost his 0 losses record,but which real boxing fan gives a **** about that? I think the potential for real greatness was there,but after the damage to his hands, boxing became a strictly business proposition-which I can understand.However,from the perspective of a fan it does seriously detract from my enjoyment of his career.

[hammerhiem]

Joe could have made those big fights years ago.

Against whom?

Did I miss a world class SMW in 2000-2006 while I was sleeping?

[Chunk..]

Against whom?

Did I miss a world class SMW in 2000-2006 while I was sleeping?

Drop a few pounds or put some pounds on and you can move to another weight division.

[Clegg]

So along comes a guy named Jeff Lacy, and all of a sudden all the Americans are on the band wagon of how Lacy is going to destroy Calzaghe and prove that all the bull**** they've been talking is true. They hype this guy up as if he's the reincarnation of Mike Tyson, due to their biased boxing media he's talked of as being a top 10 p4p fighter and all this other stuff. So then, Calzaghe ****s him and all of a sudden the Americans make an about turn and decide that Lacy was a talentless bum, and Calzaghe didn't prove anything by beating him.

Counter, you're being pretty hypocritical here.

You criticise Americans for hyping one of their own against a foreign fighters, and then calling him a bum after he lost.

But you were one of those who gave Hatton a good chance against beating Mayweather. Then after he lost you made a thread called 'Ricky Hatton is a bum'.

And Hatton has a much better record than Lacy at the moment.

The thing about Lacy is that, on reflection, he wasn't that good. Fair enough, a lot of people didn't see that at the time, but now that they do, you can't blame them for pointing it out.

People's opinions change all the time. Ultimately we'll know how much credit the win over Lacy deserves after Lacy fights J Taylor.

[AndyShitHot]

Drop a few pounds or put some pounds on and you can move to another weight division.

Ummm did u miss the memo? Joe's a Light Heavyweight now.

[hammerhiem]

Drop a few pounds or put some pounds on and you can move to another weight division.

And who would have fought him?

He had no reputation outside the Uk until the Lacy fight, thats the first time any of the P4Peven looked in his direction.

[Chunk..]

Ummm did u miss the memo? Joe's a Light Heavyweight now.

Read the post i was responding to son.

Against whom?

Did I miss a world class SMW in 2000-2006 while I was sleeping?

Thanks for playing.

[Arka]

Against whom?

Did I miss a world class SMW in 2000-2006 while I was sleeping?

I hadn't realised that Joe hadn't moved out of the Super-Middleweight division,all his career, as a matter of principle.(apart from against old man Hopkins of course.)
Much respect to him!
Roy Jones Jnr,in his career,moved from Middleweight to Heavyweight and won titles at middleweight,Super Middleweight,light heavyweight and heavyweight.Calzaghe clearly didn't need to perform these stunts to show his greatness.

BTW what big names refused to fight Calzaghe at Super-Middleweight ?