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Seriously, is this the bulk of the hardcore Floyd fans? I mean, did these kids just start watching after De La Hoya/Mayweather was announced and the 24/7 series were made? This can't be who represents the Mayweather contingent. Why are these ignorant children speaking as if they hold some cosmological knowledge of which is too complex for us "feeble minded" boxing fans to even begin to comprehend?
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Lots of fighters are undefeated while in their primes. Some even do well and undefeated when out of their primes.
So in that sense PBF isnt unique. JC is still unbeaten and hes out of his prime. Think about it.Comment
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Why is Marciano different to Mayweather?Comment
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The difference between Oscar losing to those welterweights and Floyd winning against the welters he faced,
DLHs opponents>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Floyds.
I'm sure DLH would be undefeated had he moved up o 147 and fought the worst of champions and the guy who got beat by the worst of champions, and then fought the JR welterweight champion.
So, yes, while losses do somewhat take away,
LOOK AT WHO HE FOUGHT!
How high is Sven Ottke on your list?
Retired undefeated so he must be somewhere in the top 20 according to your stannish logic.
Kostya beat Chavez but no one in their right mind would ever say Kostya was the better fighter.Comment
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Oscar had the better welterweight career yes but Floyd is the better fighter overall. I like Oscar he had a great run, and I am well aware of what Oscar did in his career. If you can not see what is special in Floyd's career or the talent that he displayed, then you are not worth discussing this with.
Why are you throwing out random fighters that i have never said anything about. Why do you care that I rate Floyd where i rate him or anyone else for that matter, not like an opinion can be wrong.
The Oscar that Floyd beat was a damn good version of Oscar, and not some shell. Not his best i will give you that but he was and still is a highly capable fighter.Comment
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I agree that overall Floyd is the better boxer. I was just showing you how ****** your logic was. I threw out random fighters to show how ****** your points are. Retiring undefeated means **** if the quality of opposition isn't of the highest caliber. I'm not saying Floyd fought strictly bums for his career, but there was a drastic drop off in his oppositions talent after 135.
The Oscar that Floyd beat was a clown, drooling like a baby from the 7th round on. Don't hype up DLH in order to make your hero look better. Tony, Cotto, Williams and Clottey all beat DLH because hes been well past it. I had it 8-4 or 9-3 in favor of Floyd.
Btw, Floyd is one of the most skilled fighters I've ever seen in my 25 years of being a fan of boxing.
Doesn't mean squat though if he chooses to avoid the best available competition when his star is shining its brightest.
Quality of opposition is very important in determining a fighters worth, which is why I brought up Sven Ottke who you apparently don't even know of.
You want to know why Sven and Marciano aren't regarded very high even though they retired undefeated?
Check out the caliber of their opposition.
Does Ricardo Lopez crack your top 30 for retiring undefeated?Comment
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Dude you are real biased and not worth talking to. I made my point and many people got it that are much more worthwhile then you. Go on believing whatever you want to believe though I just think you opinion is worthless. You have no idea on my point of view, nor do i care to clarify to you anymore. Have fun talking **** about FloydComment
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I agree that overall Floyd is the better boxer.Btw, Floyd is one of the most skilled fighters I've ever seen in my 25 years of being a fan of boxing.
Happen to miss that bias?
moving on,
Obviously, the RING magazine writers agree with my opinion so I guess their opinions are worthless as well,
well,
except when they have Floyd Mayweather Jr. as pound for pound number one fighter in the world!Comment
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top 50 for meComment
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Dude your a clown who acts like a 13 year old girl who got dumped by Floyd Mayweather. For someone who claims to be older and watched boxing for 25 years you do not seem to have a lot of prespective on issues and you seem to lack understanding of how the boxing world truely works.
Look at my first post in this thread dipstick, Not being in the top 25 is not even bad when right after that they say he is in the top 50 LOL, the difference between 25 and 50 when you think about the ammount of people that laced up the gloves is laughable, you are talking about hundreths of a percent. Also I do not think a P4P greatest list should include heavyweights so if it does then yes i think the list is bull****, there are heavyweights and everyone else.
Your biased because they way you talk about Floyd's opposition which was actually very good in total, while writing off his achievements at his original weight. You compare Floyd to DLH (who fought the most top guys of the last 25 years below heavy) yet when i bring up that he beat DLH you say DLH was nothing.
Tell me this Oscar was only 34, took care of himself fairly well, has really never been beat badly and has not even had that many fights; so how is he such a shell of a great fighter? I think Oscar would beat all 3 of the guys you listed in May 2007 or in December 2008.
When a fighter fades in a fight the guy he is fighting always has a role to play in it. In Ali-Foreman does Ali not get credit for wearing out Big George, in Cotto-Margarito do you not give credit to Margarito for wearing down Cotto. I can go on with this but i would just be talking above your head, since you have no desire to be objective.Comment
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