Calzaghe: "Kessler is Better Than Pavlik, and I Beat Him"

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  • Steel Town USA
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    #61
    Originally posted by eav
    seriously, pavlick does not hit harder than kessler, and kessler through everything at joe. Let's see how he does against Bernard who i think, being the larger man will hurt if not stop Kelly. i like the guy, but he walks straight in, joe moves too much and so will bernard. Bernard will catch him coming in and he will fall. But at 160, he is very hard to beat. if he wants an action fight, let him move up to 168 to meet Kessler. Kessler KO would be my prediction.
    You must be trolling.

    Kessler was hurt by a Calslappy body punch, can you imagine what Pavlik's bombs will do to him? If anyone gets KTFO in that fight, it's most definitely gonna be Kessler.

    Kessler hit Andrade with everything but the kitchen sink, and Andrade didn't even flinch. I realize dude's got an iron chin, but Yusaf Mack was able to put him on the canvas with one clean shot -- something the Viking Warrior didn't even come close to doing.

    If you truly believe that Kessler hits harder (or even as hard as) Kelly, well then, I don't really know what to say to you. That's pure delusion if I've ever seen it. We'll just have to wait for the fight to happen so you can see just how wrong you are.

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    • Steel Town USA
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      #62
      Originally posted by daggum
      going by calzaghes logic. pavlik is undefeated and kessler has 1 loss. so pavlik is better. good thinking joe!

      HAHAHAHAHA

      GREAT point...I didn't even think of that.

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      • Dan...
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        #63
        Kessler's power is a little overstated by some I think. If he had the kind of power some proclaim I think he probably would have stopped the likes of Mundine and Andrade and probably Sartison before the 12th. I think Kessler's punches have more of a cumulative effect.

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        • Silencers
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          #64
          Pavlik has proven more than Jones has lately.

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            #65
            Originally posted by daggum
            what about the hopkins fight? oopsyyyyyyyy please post pics of joes busted up face and hopkins was perfectly fine. who really won? notice how joe never mentions the hopkins fight only kessler and lacy cause he knows he got a gift. he hopes not talking about the hopkins fight people will forget about it. not happening windmill boy!
            Joe didn't have a "busted up face". Please don't exaggerate, he has a slightly sc****d nose which was hardly noticeable after the fight and which really wasn't deep enough to bleed. And what difference does THAT make anyway?? This was a 12 round fight, and people can get killed in a lot less time. Fighters get hit, they bleed, their noses get sc****d, their eyelids and eyebrows get cut, their noses get broken and mashed around-like Hopkins'-, for example- So WHAT?? With Hopkins, his skin and face are very durable, having been bashed into the most suitable shape over the years, so, with his facial bones lacking sharp edges, he bleeds less. So What?? For all we know he might wash his face in brine to toughen it up.

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              #66
              Originally posted by edgarg
              And what difference does it make whether he "stops" Hopkins or not. He hasn't done it so far. And if he does, all it means is that he punches harder than Calzaghe, or that he was fortunate to hve his punch meet Hopkins' jaw at the right speed, the right angle the right moment, all of these being mostly [considering how many punches are thrown with evil intent (loads of them) in a fight]. Something like Tarver's closed eye luicky punch against Jones, which even a "Superman" couldn't overcome.

              In other words...don't be so intemperate....have sense.
              I omitted "being mostly luck".

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              • daggum
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                #67
                Originally posted by edgarg
                Joe didn't have a "busted up face". Please don't exaggerate, he has a slightly sc****d nose which was hardly noticeable after the fight and which really wasn't deep enough to bleed. And what difference does THAT make anyway?? This was a 12 round fight, and people can get killed in a lot less time. Fighters get hit, they bleed, their noses get sc****d, their eyelids and eyebrows get cut, their noses get broken and mashed around-like Hopkins'-, for example- So WHAT?? With Hopkins, his skin and face are very durable, having been bashed into the most suitable shape over the years, so, with his facial bones lacking sharp edges, he bleeds less. So What?? For all we know he might wash his face in brine to toughen it up.
                hopkins face has not been bashed into the most suitable shape over the years hes just ugly.he barely gets hit unlike your boy joe who takes everything straight on the chin with pride.

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                • andy94
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                  #68
                  Calzaghe rationalizes he's reasons for avoiding Pavlik..

                  I'll give Joe some credit, he's strategically thought about his fight selection in ending his career and it doesn't involve taking a calculated risk against what would be his toughest test in Kelly Pavlik. Fighting old pros pass their prime and barely beating them doesn't do anything in my book to solidify his legacy. I never heard Joe calling out Roy (at age 32) when he was the undisputed LH champion and Joe (26) was the undisputed Super M champion. Now he'll conveniently takes the fight when Roy is slow enough to be hit, and old enough to wear out in the late rounds. Joe is a good fighter, but he's an even better matchmaker in selectively finding excuses not to fight the best, when they are at their best. Hopkins, Jones, and of course Pavlik all beat Calzaghe if their matchups occur while all in their prime. Jones and Pavlik would win by TKO! That being said, I appaud Joes for taking the path of least resistance while still earning a decent paycheck

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                  • Dirk Diggler UK
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Melly-Mel
                    weak......................try again when you learn something about the sport.
                    You dont need to know anything about the sport to see Calzaghe is a leagues above Jermain "Accident Waiting to Happen" Taylor

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                    • edgarg
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Thats because the recognised 168lb Champ was light years ahead of the recognised 160lb champ.
                      You are wrong about Kessler. I don't think you're thinking straight. Just consider this. He didn't "step up". He was a recognised Champion when he fought Calzaghe. Didn't he hold 2 World titles including the WBA and, I think, the WBC. So he was the pre-eminent title holder right up to the time of the Calzaghe fight.

                      So he HAD to be good, he WAS good, he IS good. And nobody should know this better than Calzaghe, who beat him, and besides, is a recognised expert on boxing. I'd rather trust Calzaghe's word that that of anyone on this board, that's for CERTAIN.

                      Logic ALWAYS beats wild assertions with no foundation under them except personal prejudice.

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