Calzaghe: "Kessler is Better Than Pavlik, and I Beat Him"

[MikeBrew328]

I'm not sure how it'll play out. Paulie is inconsistent, he had the best performance of his career and the worst performance of his career against the same guy. Hatton is changing trainers so maybe he'll be a bit different.

But my basic feeling is that Malignaggi will be on top form because it's such a big fight. I think Hatton is slower and has worse stamina than previously. He was in the paper last week, looking fat again, so I expect he'll be in worse shape than against Lazcano.

I think that if Malignaggi moves around the ring, throws 2-3 punches, moves again etc. he will tire Hatton out and win on points as Hatton will run out of ideas after the halfway point and run out of energy around the same time. Did you see the first PM-N'Dou fight? In my opinion if he fights like that he'll win.

I remember after the Mayweather fight, someone (Addison I think) posted about how Hatton was lighter on the night for that fight than for the Collazo fight. The theory was that Hatton came into the fight with FM lighter because he expecting to be doing a lot of chasing.

I expect that Hatton will make the same mistake here, but the other way around. He will come in heavy and will be too slow. He'll be stronger than Malignaggi anyway, but if he comes in heavy, expecting it to benefit him, I think he'll be hurting his chances. Obviously this view is based upon the belief that Malignaggi will avoid getting standing toe-to-toe.

If Malignaggi is silly enough to brawl then yes, Hatton will beat him.

His best performance IMO was against Miguel Cotto.....if you haven't seen it, watch it.

[WESS]

You really think Malignaggi will beat Hatton? Malignaggi is technically a slicker boxer, but he won't outbox Ricky, he always gets dragged into brawls, and he can't punch. Also Ricky's real travails have come at welter, I think should be able to handle Paulie.

I cant decide on this fight yet. BUT Malignaggi will OUT BOX Hatton. HATTON cant box. Only reason i'm not picking yet is because I cant figure if Malignaggi can handle Hatton's punch. Malignaggi is all around better than HATTON. But his chin and power are crap. So IMO if Malignaggi stays on the outside and BOXES Hatton, he wins a UD by playing tag like Joe Calzaghe does. If he gets in a BRAWL he will be KO'ed.

[WESS]

WESS, I don't care if you respect him or not. It just makes me think you are dumb if you don't.

I'm not talking about me... I'm talking about the MANY POSTERS you argue with over and over. I'm talking about boxing critics, i'm talking about down the road when his name is mentioned. I'm talking EVERYONE. I could care less. I just get tired of the SAME calzaghe fans begging for everyone to "GIVE" joe something. I will actually be VERY happy when he leaves the sport.

[Kris Silver]

For christs sake, 17 pages.

For the record the definition of elite =

–noun
1. (often used with a plural verb) the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.
2. (used with a plural verb) persons of the highest class: Only the elite were there.
3. a group of persons exercising the major share of authority or influence within a larger group: the power elite of a major political party.


Calzaghe is factually #1 in two weight divisons having beaten the #1 or two guys, and is p4p #2 in the world.

You cannot re write the dictionary and retro spectively call someone non elite for them retiring as planned not fighting someone as you wanted.

Grow up. Lots of fights don't come off.

[FLY TY]

pavlik beats the **** outta kessler

taylor beats calzaghe

[Clegg]

His best performance IMO was against Miguel Cotto.....if you haven't seen it, watch it.

I've seen it, but he was hurt and losing the fight early, and I think that stopped him from fighting the way that he wanted to. He certainly had some good moments though.

The fight shows that he is a lot tougher than he looks, but does not showcase his abilities as well as the N'Dou one IMO.

[Clegg]

Wow, Kessler is getting recognition losing a wide UD to Calzaghe in his prime.

In my opinion you can only assess someone's prime once it is over. Kessler may yet get better.

Pavlik style would suit Kessler.

Ok, explain why.

Kessler is a unproven fighter and has not beaten one single good fighter NOT ****ING ONE

You don't think that Mundine and Andrade are good fighters? They aren't great, but they're good at the very least.

and people claim he is better than Pavlik the undisputed champion of the world.

Pavlik isn't undisputed. Taylor was undisputed, but got stripped of 1/2 belts. You need 3 of the main 4 to be undisputed.

Why doesn’t Kessler move up weight and fight in LHW or MW.

Well he can't fight at MW, he's too big. Why should he fight at LHW? He obviously wouldn't be at his best if he is blown up, and looking at how Dawson gave up his belt rather than face a European that wasn't well known to Americans, there's a good chance that he wouldn't get a fight with Tarver or Dawson. A Calzaghe rematch is out of the question, I can't see Kessler-Jones happening, so there's not really any point in moving up.

[diamonddale]

Could'nt agree more

Joe rode Lacy for years , mentioning him a 1000 times in every interview now he is going to use Kessler to try and cover his ducking of the unworthy Pavlik .

I dislike Joe because he has no honor .

Joe does'nt have any right to say Pavlik has something to prove. He just beat the undisputed middleweight champ, ko to win the title. And also ko Edison Miranda to be a legit contender. Calzaghe beat Lacy and Kessler. Calzaghe is a goof.

[diamonddale]

Could'nt agree more

Joe rode Lacy for years , mentioning him a 1000 times in every interview now he is going to use Kessler to try and cover his ducking of the unworthy Pavlik .

I dislike Joe because he has no honor .

Joe does'nt have any right to say Pavlik has something to prove. He just beat the undisputed middleweight champ, ko to win the title. And also ko Edison Miranda to be a legit contender. Calzaghe beat Lacy and Kessler. Calzaghe is a goof. The big difference is that Pavlik did'nt wait 40 fights to take a risk. He's knocking people out. And Joe is fighting like an amateur. Enzo is a goof as well.

[BattlingNelson]

Ottke is kind of like a thorn in the Calzaghe side. I mean, who does he think he is holding onto a SMW belt in the Joe Calzaghe era? Its not the done thing.

Would you root for Ottke? In truth I have never seen him fight and I am a little su****ious of the 'absolute fraud and bum' label that gets attached to him, after all, Calzaghe gets the same thing. Surely he couldn't be that bad could he?

Also how about Beyer? There's another one who gets slated, but how good was he?

Ottke takes a lot of ridicule on NSB. He doesn't deserve it TBH, but he'd deserve a lot still for his appearance and ridiculously boring defensive fighting style.

I've wasted many a saturday watching Ottke fight dull fight after dull fight. I mainly watched it in the vain hope of seeing him on the canvas. Of course that didnt happen.

Had he fought Joe I'd root for Joe any day. I actually became a fan of Joe after seeing him fight on the Tyson-Nielsen undercard.

Beyer is a good boxer. Nothing more. As a champion I'd have to say average at best.