Joe Cazaghe's resume: very impressive

[Addition]

This thread is just proof of what many already know: Brits don't know **** about boxing. If you consider Calzaghe's resume impressive, you must not realize that the sport of boxing has fighters outside the boundaries of the UK...

The person who made this thread isn't even British or are you that ****** to realise?

[bsrizpac]

The person who made this thread isn't even British or are you that ****** to realise?

He's talking about the thread were I outed Ricky as being a liar.

[superchamp]

People should start a thread like this for other fighters like Mayweather and Toney, giving the names and actual titles held by their opponents. Did Jones really defeat that many champions - if so, what are their names and exactly what titles did they have?

Roy Jones Jr:

4 division champion (IBF middleweight, IBF super middleweight, WBC IBF WBA light heavyweight, WBA heavyweight)

Champions beat (records at the time of the fight):

Jorge Vaca (49-8) WBC welterweight champion
Jorge Castro (70-3) WBA middleweight champion
Bernard Hopkins (22-1) WBC WBA IBF WBO middleweight champion, Ring light heavyweight champion
Thulani Malinga (35-8) WBC super middleweight champion
James Toney (44-0) IBF middleweight, IBF super middleweight, IBF cruiserweight champion (WBA heavyweight champion for 1 week
Eric Lucas (19-2) WBC super middleweight champion
Vinny Pazienza (40-5) IBF lightweight, WBA junior middleweight champion
Montell Griffin (27-0) WBC light heavyweight champion
Mike McCallum (49-3) WBA light middleweight, WBA middleweight, WBC light heavyweight champion
Virgil Hill(43-2) WBA light heavyweight, WBA cruiserweight champion
Lou De Valle (27-1) WBA light heavyweight champion
Otis Grant (31-1) WBO middleweight champion
Reggie Johnson (39-5) WBA middleweight, IBF light heavyweight champion
Julio Gonzalez (27-0) WBO light heavyweight champion
Clinton Woods (32-1) IBF light heavyweight champion
John Ruiz (38-4) WBA heavyweight champion
Antonio Tarver (21-1) WBC WBA IBF light heavyweight champion
Felix Trinidad (42-2) IBF WBC welterweight, IBF WBA junior middleweight champion, WBA middleweight champion

Undefeated fighters beat:

Glenn Thomas (24-0)
James Toney (44-0-2)
Bryant Brannon (16-0)
Montell Griffin (27-0)
Eric Harding (19-0-1)
Julio Gonzalez (27-0)
Glenn Kelly (28-0-1)
Anthony Hanshaw (21-0-1)

[superchamp]

I didn't include interim or IBO champions (as is on Calzaghe's).

I didn't mention reclaimed championships for the opponent list (ie 3x light heavweight champion, etc). (as is on Calzaghe's).

I didn't include any other of his better opp that was not undefeated or a world champion. (as is on Calzaghe's).

Calzaghe's resume just doesn't stack up against that.

I could do the same for Mayweather and Toney and several other fighters, but it takes too long, so if you want, check it out yourself.

[The Hammer]

Superchamp, you did a good job on that!

Jones has a great resume, definitely better than my favorite fighter, Joe Calzaghe.

But it doesn't change the fact that Joe has a very impressive resume.

[DiegoFuego]

Superchamp, you did a good job on that!

Jones has a great resume, definitely better than my favorite fighter, Joe Calzaghe.

But it doesn't change the fact that Joe has a very impressive resume.

lol whatever you say

[bsrizpac]

lol whatever you say

It's good. Above average. That's it.

He BARELY beat Hopkins corpse. Remember that.

[The Hammer]

It's good. Above average. That's it.

He BARELY beat Hopkins corpse. Remember that.

Remember what you asked me to do? Now I'll ask you: name some white fighters you like, and give the reasons.

(I've asked the same to DiegoFuego in the past, and he was honest and admitted he doesn't like white boxers)

[Steak]

Roy Jones Jr:

4 division champion (IBF middleweight, IBF super middleweight, WBC IBF WBA light heavyweight, WBA heavyweight)

Champions beat (records at the time of the fight):

Jorge Vaca (49-8) WBC welterweight champion
Jorge Castro (70-3) WBA middleweight champion
Bernard Hopkins (22-1) WBC WBA IBF WBO middleweight champion, Ring light heavyweight champion
Thulani Malinga (35-8) WBC super middleweight champion
James Toney (44-0) IBF middleweight, IBF super middleweight, IBF cruiserweight champion (WBA heavyweight champion for 1 week
Eric Lucas (19-2) WBC super middleweight champion
Vinny Pazienza (40-5) IBF lightweight, WBA junior middleweight champion
Montell Griffin (27-0) WBC light heavyweight champion
Mike McCallum (49-3) WBA light middleweight, WBA middleweight, WBC light heavyweight champion
Virgil Hill(43-2) WBA light heavyweight, WBA cruiserweight champion
Lou De Valle (27-1) WBA light heavyweight champion
Otis Grant (31-1) WBO middleweight champion
Reggie Johnson (39-5) WBA middleweight, IBF light heavyweight champion
Julio Gonzalez (27-0) WBO light heavyweight champion
Clinton Woods (32-1) IBF light heavyweight champion
John Ruiz (38-4) WBA heavyweight champion
Antonio Tarver (21-1) WBC WBA IBF light heavyweight champion
Felix Trinidad (42-2) IBF WBC welterweight, IBF WBA junior middleweight champion, WBA middleweight champion

Undefeated fighters beat:

Glenn Thomas (24-0)
James Toney (44-0-2)
Bryant Brannon (16-0)
Montell Griffin (27-0)
Eric Harding (19-0-1)
Julio Gonzalez (27-0)
Glenn Kelly (28-0-1)
Anthony Hanshaw (21-0-1)

surprising how many champs he beat, and people say he didnt beat all that great of competition.
although you have to take into consideration that a few of those former champs were Welterweights and everything...and then you have McCallum, who was like 42 or somethin...
but still impressive as hell.

although you can do something similiar to even Arturo Gatti
Champions beat:
Tracy Harris Patterson x2
Gabriel Ruelas
Joey Gamache
Terron Millet
Leonard Dorin
Jesse James Jeija
Calvin Grove

Undefeated:
Joe Hutchinson 18-0-2
Gianluca Branco 32-0-1
Leonard Dorin 22-0-1
Thomas Damgaard 37-0

Yea, thats right, the same number of wins over champs that Joe Calzaghe has had. (If you only count the WBO, WBC, IBF and WBA belts.)

Im not trying to compare Arturo Gatti's record to Calzaghe's, that would just be ******...but it just goes to show how much easier it is for fighters to be 'world champs' nowadays...with so many damn belts around.
And records can be very deceiving.

You really can only judge fighters by who they fought, and you should watch these guys fight in other fights before you judge how good of a win they are.

[The Hammer]

Champions beat:
Tracy Harris Patterson x2
Gabriel Ruelas
Joey Gamache
Terron Millet
Leonard Dorin
Jesse James Jeija
Calvin Grove

Undefeated:
Joe Hutchinson 18-0-2
Gianluca Branco 32-0-1
Leonard Dorin 22-0-1
Thomas Damgaard 37-0

Yea, thats right, the same number of wins over champs that Joe Calzaghe has had. (If you only count the WBO, WBC, IBF and WBA belts.)

No, that's seven world titleholders to Joe's nine, excluding the IBO. And Joe has defeated unified champions (Kessler) and has two Ring titles simultaneously.

But Gatti has a very good resume too - and he accomplished it without as much natural talent of Joe and Roy.