Joe Cazaghe's resume: very impressive

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  • The Hammer
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    #91
    Originally posted by RodBarker
    Johnson just lost three at the time and had reported personal problems going on for a string of 4 straight losses , once again you neglect the true form and name drop which is typical .
    You can discredit anybody's resume like that. I've learned how to here at boxingscene, from people like the Brit hater, !! $iN.

    You say you don't hate Joe, but if you didn't, you wouldn't make all these posts discrediting him.

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    • daggum
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      #92
      Originally posted by Tunney
      Old and about to retire?

      Some of Joe's pre-Lacy title defenses were against still-active "name" opponents younger than himself: Mitchell, Sheika, etc.
      mitchell did retire for 4 years but don't worry he recently came back to fight a journeyman and got stopped. sheikas definetly been active but he has 7 wins and 6 losses since fighting calzaghe.
      the caliber of these guys is just

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        #93
        Originally posted by daggum
        mitchell did retire for 4 years but don't worry he recently came back to fight a journeyman and got stopped. sheikas definetly been active but he has 7 wins and 6 losses since fighting calzaghe.
        Mitchell and Sheika did well before they fought Joe, but were not the same afterwards.

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        • RodBarker
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          #94
          Originally posted by Tunney
          Mitchell and Sheika did well before they fought Joe, but were not the same afterwards.
          Mitchells biggest win was SD to Siacca was a decentt fighter but far from a big wheel , he lost the fight before Cal to Ottke , then Cal then stopped again , really looks like Joe wrecked him dont it

          You can discredit anybody's resume like that. I've learned how to here at boxingscene, from people like the Brit hater, !! $iN.

          You say you don't hate Joe, but if you didn't, you wouldn't make all these posts discrediting him.
          You cant discredit a guys marque wins if the name and form of the opponet is good at the time , the current form of a guy at the time you fight him is more important than his overall reputation .
          I could beat Ali right now with one arm behind my back , get the point .

          I dont discredit Joe , I discredit your over the top opinion .

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            #95
            Originally posted by Tunney
            Many of his opponents have held world titles:

            Eubank (WBO twice, at 160 and 168)
            Reid (WBC at 168)
            Hopkins (IBF, WBC, WBO, WBA, Ring at 160, and IBO, Ring at 175)
            Kessler (WBA and WBC at 168)
            Lacy (IBF at 168)
            Mitchell (WBA twice at 168)
            Brewer (IBF at 168)
            Veit (interim WBO twice at 168)
            Woodhall (WBC at 168)
            Thornberry (IBO at 168)

            Some of the others were strong opponents too:

            Bika (contender champion 2007)
            Sheika (was coming off a win over Glen Johnson)

            Some were undefeated:

            Kessler (39-0)
            Lacy (21-0)
            Veit (30-0)
            Hughes (12-0)
            Delaney (21-0)

            Calzaghe currently holds the prestigious Ring title in two different weight classes, super middleweight and light heavyweight, at the same time!

            It's a very good resume by any standards.
            This is why Calzaghe is rated top 5 P4P by most and is regarded as the GOAT at SMW, regardless of how many haters and trolls say otherwise.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Tunney
              Mitchell and Sheika did well before they fought Joe, but were not the same afterwards.
              Calzaghe tends to ruin fighters. You can add Lacy to this list since he may never fully recover mentally from that beating.

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              • RodBarker
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                #97
                Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
                This is why Calzaghe is rated top 5 P4P by most and is regarded as the GOAT at SMW, regardless of how many haters and trolls say otherwise.
                How can you of all people call anybody a hater or a troll , bit of the pot calling the kettle black eh .

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by RodBarker
                  And if you look at it for real and look at the opponents form leading into their fight with Joe and then their last opponets the resume is full of holes , not saying Joe is bad or anything like that , he is a very good champ , just saying he is not great or an ATG he was brought along semi protected in the UK for a long time , the longer a fighter is homebound before heading to the USA the more hand picked their career has been getting to that point , no ones fault just the real world and the way world boxing has evolved .

                  Thats a load of crap. I don't see very many americans going overseas to prove their worth as world champions much, why is every other fighter of a different nation required to fight in america? Does america have better C and B level competition? There are just as many american fighters who have had handpicked careers as there are non american.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Tunney
                    You can discredit anybody's resume like that. I've learned how to here at boxingscene, from people like the Brit hater, !! $iN.

                    You say you don't hate Joe, but if you didn't, you wouldn't make all these posts discrediting him.
                    its not discrediting him, its just that some of yall go insane about his record and overdue how good he is, and you need to be kept in check.

                    its like that with any hyped up fighter. There record can be great, but sometimes people overhype them, and need to be waken up. take Margarito or Floyd for example. theyre both very good fighters, but sometimes their fans make them out to be a little more than they really are.

                    Just because youre giving someone a reality check about a certain fighter doesnt mean you hate that fighter.
                    Thats a load of crap. I don't see very many americans going overseas to prove their worth as world champions much, why is every other fighter of a different nation required to fight in america? Does america have better C and B level competition? There are just as many american fighters who have had handpicked careers as there are non american.
                    Im not saying that fighting in America automatically makes you a better fighter or anything, but take Calzaghe for example. his first big success with American fight fans was over Lacy. since then, he has fought two of his other top wins in his career in Hopkins and Kessler, and he is now the choice opponent for many people for big fights.

                    If your name is big in America, typically youre going to end up getting big fights. its not the only way, but still. If you want to be recognised as a great fighter, you have to go after those big fights yourself. Calzaghe did not do that his whole career and ended up fighting mediocre opposition, and thats why people downplay his record a bit
                    Last edited by Steak; 05-29-2008, 08:10 PM.

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                    • RodBarker
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone

                      Thats a load of crap. I don't see very many americans going overseas to prove their worth as world champions much, why is every other fighter of a different nation required to fight in america? Does america have better C and B level competition? There are just as many american fighters who have had handpicked careers as there are non american.
                      Obviously you havent followed boxing very long , America has alway been the mecca of boxing because thats where the biggest dollar is , whether you like it or not doesnt really matter , whether you think its right or wrong doesnt matter either ,,, Fact is thats the way it is and has been for an age .

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