Tommy Hearns v Floyd Mayweather

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  • brooklyn kid
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    #61
    mayweather is no doubt in my mind the better fighter of the two but

    if they were to fight hearns would tear him a new a*shole.

    its just stylistic nightmare for mayweather

    this isnt fair since hearns started at welter weight and went as high as

    cruiserweight while mayweather started at superfeather and came up to

    welter where i think he will stay his whole career

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    • oldgringo
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      #62
      Hearns stops him in the mid-late rounds.

      A great big man beats a great smaller man in this case. Tommy was a better pure boxer with significant size and power advantages. Nobody outboxed Tommy when he was on his toes using that sharp, flicking jab....really as a result of that length and power.

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      • Kilrain
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        #63
        Originally posted by DA1CATAS
        You guys put these older fights so far above the new ones when the new ones have gotten loads better.

        You gotta put their best fights and worst fights together and see who would have done better in each situation.

        Floyd is an ATG.. after he takes cotto you guys will start to realize...

        Mayweather has SUPERB movement... SUPERB ring generalship... SUPERB intelligence... GREAT hand speed... and SUPERB DEFENSE....


        You guys just blow that off everytime you talk about him.
        I'm a Mayweather fan and rate him very highly, in terms of his skill level. I just think, putting him there with Tommy, the sheer dimensions of the Motor City Cobra would be difficult to overcome. Floyd would have to close the distance and stay there long enough to do damage, and thats a very vulnerable position. Plus Floyd doesnt have the punch to ward Hearns off and Tommy, when he gets confidence going and thinks he can walk through you - thats a very dangerous fighter

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        • warp1432
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          #64
          Hearns would beat him in a clear UD about 116-112. Mayweather's footwork can win him some rounds, but in the end Hearns would be too much.

          I'd pick Mayweather beating Lenoard before I would pick him beating Hearns.

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          • TommyGunn.
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            #65
            A no brainer.

            Hearns wld startch Floyd early.

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            • Kilrain
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              #66
              Haha at the legend killer nonsense. A lot lesser fighters than Joe Calzaghe could've finished a Eubank coming in at short notice and a good several years past his prime. Hell Tony Thornton schooled him IN HIS PRIME!

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              • robjr
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                #67
                yea this is all hearns

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                • pbftxrs316
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by _Ricky_


                  Nuthugging ****, can you ever be reasonable?
                  so because he picked floyd over tommy, he is nuthugging and cannot be reasonable? i guess anybody on here who picks floyd is nuthugging then. you're a ****ing joke, and i really mean this. you're so wrried about somebody picking floyd because he is the better boxer, much better mover, better defense, better counterpuncher, and faster fighter, that you don't even give a reason why you picked tommy over him, you're a ****ing joke.

                  floyd would be too much for tommy hearns, and he would beat him by ud. his defense is too good and better than sugar ray leonard's was and duran's was. floyd is too crafty for tommy and wouldn't waste punches like leonard did, he is more accurate by far. he chooses his shots well and positions his body where he can offset tommy to the core. it's funny you guys say tommy would knock floyd out as if floyd as even been in trouble like that to where he looked as if he was going to be knocked out. tommy hearns ain't knocking out ****, that's for damn sure, floyd would beat tommy hearns, who is bigger than him, has a longer reach, and uses hisjab effectively was floyd moves better and throws sharper punches.

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                  • Kilrain
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                    #69
                    Corley had him on cloud 9 for a few moments when they fought, Judah wobbled him (even dropped him if you want to talk semantics -PBF's glove touched canvas), Castillo buzzed him once or twice in their first fight, I'm not saying Floyd doesn't have a chin - he has a great chin, but he's not invulnerable either.

                    But you argued your point well. I do think Floyd is a sharper puncher, but Tommys a better - quicker - mover and also FASTER (at WW definitely, Floyd doesn't punch with the rapidity like he did as a lightweight/super lightweight) with his hands I believe.

                    I simply think it would be more difficult for Floyd to beat Tommy than the other way around; I can see Tommy moving around and peppering Floyd with that jab and Floyd being a little too small to counter effectively, while when he gets in he can get hurt, I also see some big booming right hands nicking rounds. Tommy completely outboxed SRL who is quite similar to Floyd and a brilliant boxer himself, he got in trouble when Ray got in range and managed to unload heavily, but at WW Ray is a heavier puncher than Floyd for sure

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                    • pbftxrs316
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Kilrain
                      Corley had him on cloud 9 for a few moments when they fought, Judah wobbled him (even dropped him if you want to talk semantics -PBF's glove touched canvas), Castillo buzzed him once or twice in their first fight, I'm not saying Floyd doesn't have a chin - he has a great chin, but he's not invulnerable either.

                      But you argued your point well. I do think Floyd is a sharper puncher, but Tommys a better - quicker - mover and also FASTER (at WW definitely, Floyd doesn't punch with the rapidity like he did as a lightweight/super lightweight) with his hands I believe.

                      I simply think it would be more difficult for Floyd to beat Tommy than the other way around; I can see Tommy moving around and peppering Floyd with that jab and Floyd being a little too small to counter effectively, while when he gets in he can get hurt, I also see some big booming right hands nicking rounds. Tommy completely outboxed SRL who is quite similar to Floyd and a brilliant boxer himself, he got in trouble when Ray got in range and managed to unload heavily, but at WW Ray is a heavier puncher than Floyd for sure
                      i repsect this post because you're giving points, but i disagree, tommy moved well for his size, but floyd moves more fluent, which is why he is so accurate, something sugar ray did, but not wit pin point punches against tommy, which is why i am willing to bet that floyd is a better inside fighter than hearns, and knows how to position himself to a place that would offset tommy's long reach, and his jab. floyd fights well off of the ropes, much better than sugar ray and duran ever did. tommy has all of the entangibles to beat any fighter, but floyd is just too smart with his skillset to lose to tommy, period.

                      corley had floyd on cloud nine for a split second only to be floored several seconds later. zab caught floyd with a quick counter shot when floyd wemt for a body shot, which was a good shot, but floyd recovered very fast, this showing me he was only caught off balance, and floyd adjusted to both of them very well, which is why he dominated them the way he did. with corley, floyd fought as if he wanted ti show he could ****, and corley threw a looping left hand and caught floyd a few times with it. floyd just showed how good his chin was because right afterwards he hurt corley. zab never wobbled floyd, he caught him with a good left hand that sent floyd back to the ropes, but then zab miseed nearly every punch that followed the left hand, and floyd went to his body right afterwards, and broke his ass down, which is why rounds 5 through 11, he dominated zab. tommy hearns doesn't have faster hands than floyd or zab for that matter. castillo may have buzzed floyd but never hurt floyd one time in that fight, and this was a floyd who was fighting hurt to begin with.

                      again, floyd would be too much for tommy imo, but i respect your argument a lot.

                      oh yeah, and before i forget, sugar ray was as gifted a fighter as it gets, but all around floyd outshines him, and think about this, ray leonard wasted a lot of punches on tommy and tired himself out a lot in that fight, floyd chooses his punches very strategically which is why he is so accurate and has been his whole career. he's a smart puncher, and a great timer with his shots, he doesn't tire himself throwing flurries like ray did, he fights poised and throws his punhes in a composed temperment.

                      and, by the way, kilrain, floyd wouldn't fight tommy hearns the way he fought corley, he'd be too smart for that, he adjusts very well to different, which is something tommy did also, but floyd is just too ****ing fast and sharp.
                      Last edited by pbftxrs316; 05-12-2008, 07:31 PM.

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