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  • Mr. Ryan
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    #31
    Originally posted by vladimir303
    No one at all???? You must be kiddin' right.
    Virtually every analyst/notable observer I polled before the fight said it was a complete mismatch.

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    • Sin City
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      #32
      Originally posted by warp1432
      Though I found it funny that people was like "He has to beat Hatton in a convincing manner without running and then he'll finally get my respect"

      And then they still don't. There's no doubt that he has to fight Cotto, but people still **** on his resume and include Hatton didn't mean anything, but said that before.

      I find it funny.

      "Well warp, no one said that"

      Wiley Hynea is a perfect example.
      You can't cover the sun with a thumb.. that one win needs to be followed by another great one.

      I was opposed to him fightin Hatton from the get go since Hatton had no business in the welterweight division but still gave him his dues when the fight was done.

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      • Vladimir303
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        #33
        Originally posted by De√ious
        you are an idiot. imagine if he had the drawing power of a ray leonard or de la hoya.. instead of making what DLH made against Mayorga in the states he would have made a lot more. Same goes for every fight before that..
        you just exposed your ******ity.. how can someone possible make more money then what Floyd has made.. Look at DLH and how he made his money.

        Chill with the insults my little mutant friend.

        Isn't the saying that no matter what he does he will never have the popularity of a Ray Leonard or Delahoya or a Mike Tyson in terms of GLOBAL popularity.

        So really him fighting the best doesn't play a factor in that now does it? He may get the respect of the few hardcore fans but mainstream wise it don't help him a bit. In reality, that's the truth.

        But overall bussiness wise, he is making all the right moves. All of the appearences (Dancing WTS, NBA all star weekend, WWE) is what's making him popular in the mainstream.

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        • Mr. Ryan
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          #34
          Originally posted by vladimir303

          This is bull****. How is he gonna make anymore money then he is now? And if he is actually keeping it safe like most of you think, then he really is making the right choice.....making millions while avoiding the best.
          This is Mayweather logic/doctrine. People who love boxing would want the best to fight the best. I want to see the best fight the best. If you don't then that's where we disagree.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Asian Sensation
            Virtually every analyst/notable observer I polled before the fight said it was a complete mismatch.
            And virtually every analyst also gives a pretty good amount of credit to Floyd's overall resume.

            He is indicting the people who gave Hatton a great chance on here and now say that the win doesn't mean anything at all.

            Originally posted by De√ious
            You can't cover the sun with a thumb.. that one win needs to be followed by another great one.

            I was opposed to him fightin Hatton from the get go since Hatton had no business in the welterweight division but still gave him his dues when the fight was done.
            How many people knew that Hatton had no business fighting at 147 before Mayweather? He was 1-0 up to that point and had won the WBA welterweight title.

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            • Sin City
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              #36
              Originally posted by vladimir303
              Chill with the insults my little mutant friend.

              Isn't the saying that no matter what he does he will never have the popularity of a Ray Leonard or Delahoya or a Mike Tyson in terms of GLOBAL popularity.

              So really him fighting the best doesn't play a factor in that now does it? He may get the respect of the few hardcore fans but mainstream wise it don't help him a bit. In reality, that's the truth.

              But overall bussiness wise, he is making all the right moves. All of the appearences (Dancing WTS, NBA all star weekend, WWE) is what's making him popular in the mainstream.
              that's because of his attitude.. if you weren't a you would know that.
              like I said before.. no one likes a prick!

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              • Vladimir303
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                #37
                Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                This is Mayweather logic/doctrine. People who love boxing would want the best to fight the best. I want to see the best fight the best. If you don't then that's where we disagree.
                Comprehension skills please. Don't simplify everything to the "best fighting the best" warrior bull**** talk. This guy said that Floyd would make alot more money if he did this and that.

                I'm saying that fighting Delahoya and Hatton last year was the best option for his pockets. Right now, he is more popular and making more money then he ever did in his career.

                Financially he is making all the right moves which is what we were talking about. You may not like that but it's the truth. Not everything comes down to Cotto.......chill out.

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                • Mr. Ryan
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by vladimir303
                  Chill with the insults my little mutant friend.

                  Isn't the saying that no matter what he does he will never have the popularity of a Ray Leonard or Delahoya or a Mike Tyson in terms of GLOBAL popularity.

                  So really him fighting the best doesn't play a factor in that now does it? He may get the respect of the few hardcore fans but mainstream wise it don't help him a bit. In reality, that's the truth.

                  But overall bussiness wise, he is making all the right moves. All of the appearences (Dancing WTS, NBA all star weekend, WWE) is what's making him popular in the mainstream.
                  Regardless of fans and tickets, let's talk about boxing here. If Mayweather says he is the best fighter ever and would whoop Ray Robinson's ass, should he not do something to back that talk up? If not, then why should he fight at all?

                  When he puts the P4P title on ice, he detracts from the sport of boxing. The best is not fighting the best and then we have a champion that any don't respect.

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                  • Sin City
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DWiens421
                    And virtually every analyst also gives a pretty good amount of credit to Floyd's overall resume.

                    He is indicting the people who gave Hatton a great chance on here and now say that the win doesn't mean anything at all.



                    How many people knew that Hatton had no business fighting at 147 before Mayweather? He was 1-0 up to that point and had won the WBA welterweight title.
                    He had also looked like **** when moving up against Collazo.
                    If he looked like **** against Collazo how the hell would he fair against Mayweather?
                    Not to mention everybody and their mother felt Hatton was one dimensional and over rated, including myself.. which he is.

                    you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blow, you know..

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                    • Bea5T
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                      #40
                      Mayweather wont be as bisg as oscar or ray because boxing isnt as close to as popular as it was 10-20 years ago

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