Roy Jones JR is the most overated Fighter ever

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #181
    I can think of several champs worse than Ruiz but that's not the point. The point is Jones soundly outboxed a top 5 heavyweight. That's no small feat, especially considering where he came from.[/QUOTE]

    Roy Could dld have beaten Ruiz with one arm he was that bad ,what are u talking about Ruiz was awfull absolutely awfull

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      #182
      Originally posted by divad
      Calzaghe & Roy are both Overated IMO

      Debatable who is more Overated cause while Roy has achieved more he has been Ko'd twice in devestating fashion which only leaves question mark's over his reluctance to fight certain fighter's when he was in his prime & his willingness to fight the Telasco ,Hall ,Lucas,Kelly of the world
      Who is overating Jones? Most the media never liked him, ****ing ESPN ranked him 44 on the Alltime list right next to Morales and Barrera.

      Talk about a Joke.

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        #183
        Originally posted by divad
        I can think of several champs worse than Ruiz but that's not the point. The point is Jones soundly outboxed a top 5 heavyweight. That's no small feat, especially considering where he came from.
        Roy Could dld have beaten Ruiz with one arm he was that bad ,what are u talking about Ruiz was awfull absolutely awfull[/QUOTE]

        I don't know that. Not too many heavyweights found Ruiz easy to beat - some were pretty notable. But again, no one is claiming Ruiz was Lennox Lewis. What I am saying is that he was a top 5 heavy, fighting 70lbs north of where Jones began and 50lbs more than any other opponent he had ever faced. I mean, anyone clamoring to see Floyd against a top 5 cruiser?

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          #184
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Who knows? Why didn't Darius fight Roy? Jones was the shot-caller and he wasn't willing to fight overseas. Darius wasn't either. Who's to blame?
          Roy is'nt to blame for anything he beat Toney & all the best fighter's avoided him or priced themselves out of a deal clearly what happened

          god for bid Roy ducked any of them ,just pure coincidence he fought Bum's after Toney he did'nt even want a peace of a shot Michael Nunn there was no excuse for not fighting Nunn

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            #185
            Originally posted by mrpain81
            Excuses Excuses....

            Dariusz got Tooled by Julio Gonzales - Jones made Gonzales look like a Bum..

            It's obvious you have a baised hate towards Roy Jones, I was never even a fan. Saying that, Im not going to deny he was the best fighter of his generation.
            Yeah and he beat Thadzi , Griffin , Hill blah blah who beat Toney.......zzzzzzzzzzzz
            I don't think he was the best fighter of the 90's because his competition was not as good as Lennox lewis for starters.
            You simply cannot tell me that Roy Jones faced better more dangerous threats than Lennox.
            Roy may have had ability b ut showcasing it against bums was a waste.

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              #186
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Roy Could dld have beaten Ruiz with one arm he was that bad ,what are u talking about Ruiz was awfull absolutely awfull
              I don't know that. Not too many heavyweights found Ruiz easy to beat - some were pretty notable. But again, no one is claiming Ruiz was Lennox Lewis. What I am saying is that he was a top 5 heavy, fighting 70lbs north of where Jones began and 50lbs more than any other opponent he had ever faced. I mean, anyone clamoring to see Floyd against a top 5 cruiser?[/QUOTE]

              Dude Ruiz was terrible & u know it

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                #187
                Originally posted by mrpain81
                Who is overating Jones? Most the media never liked him, ****ing ESPN ranked him 44 on the Alltime list right next to Morales and Barrera.

                Talk about a Joke.
                NSB Boxing Fan's

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED


                  True. Run down the list of all-time greats and you'll find fighters they didn't fight, that they should have (ask Mike McCallum, or Aaron Pryor). Doesn't take away from what they DID accomplish.


                  I tried that with Lennox lewis and could only come up with Rid**** Bowe who outright refused to face Lewis.
                  Lewis did beat him in the Olympics however so I guess that resolved it.

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by divad
                    I don't know that. Not too many heavyweights found Ruiz easy to beat - some were pretty notable. But again, no one is claiming Ruiz was Lennox Lewis. What I am saying is that he was a top 5 heavy, fighting 70lbs north of where Jones began and 50lbs more than any other opponent he had ever faced. I mean, anyone clamoring to see Floyd against a top 5 cruiser?
                    Dude Ruiz was terrible & u know it[/QUOTE]

                    Maybe...but then so were a lot of guys, including one who KO'ed Lennox Lewis. Whatever the case, he was a top 5 heavyweight - how terrible could he have been, especially against a smallish 175lber? That most people disregard Jones' accomplishment because he didn't fight Lennox is a testament to how great he was. I mean, he woulda had to fight Lennox to appease y'all? Wow...

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by moofo
                      I tried that with Lennox lewis and could only come up with Rid**** Bowe who outright refused to face Lewis.
                      Lewis did beat him in the Olympics however so I guess that resolved it.
                      No...we are talking pro boxing. Start adding the amateurs and a lot of fighters move around, historically. Nevertheless, we're talking Roy Jones here, who moved through multiple divisions. And like Lewis, certains fights weren't made at the time they should've, possibly through no fault of his own. Lewis-Tyson should've occured earlier, as was the case with Lewis-Holyfield and Lewis-Bowe never occured.

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