Mayweather & Hatton: Adversity Means Very Little

[MJ406]

IN my opinion, it is accurate.

ok its your opinion .. but I don't think its accurate .. considering the time difference between Mayweather fighting Castillo and when Hatton fought Castillo (5 YEARS)

people don't lossed .. they lose.

you saw that Castillo pushed Floyd a hard 12 rounds in their first fight ... he didn't even last a full 4 rounds in 2007 vs Hatton.

would you care to explain that? since you think Castillo even at 32 was one of Hatton's best opponents and can match up to just about anyone Floyd faced.

how does Castillo getting Kayo'd in 4 rounds by Hatton hold up as a tough fight?

granted Castillo gave Mayweather a tough fight

but didn't at all vs Hatton. he lost every single round and was KO'd on a body shot.

their totally different fights at 2 different weight classes 5 years apart.

how can you find any relation at all?

[Wiley Hyena]

ok its your opinion .. but I don't think its accurate .. considering the time difference between Mayweather fighting Castillo and when Hatton fought Castillo (5 YEARS)

people don't lossed .. they lose.

you saw that Castillo pushed Floyd a hard 12 rounds in their first fight ... he didn't even last a full 4 rounds in 2007 vs Hatton.

would you care to explain that? since you think Castillo even at 32 was one of Hatton's best opponents and can match up to just about anyone Floyd faced.

how does Castillo getting Kayo'd in 4 rounds by Hatton hold up as a tough fight?

granted Castillo gave Mayweather a tough fight

but didn't at all vs Hatton. he lost every single round and was KO'd on a body shot.

their totally different fights at 2 different weight classes 5 years apart.

how can you find any relation at all?

Actually the right word is "lost." If you feel the need to play English teacher, at least instruct correctly.

Now, as to the rest of your BS: What I saw was Castillo beating Floyd in their first fight. That's what I saw.

How do I explain Hatton taking Castillo down in 4? I explain it by the visual evidence. Hatton's body shots.

I furthermore believe that Tszyu holds up against De LaHoya. The more you attempt to run down Hatton's accomplishments, the more biased you appear.

My point is not biased. I objectively do not think their records can be clearly distinguished. There is not enough of a difference IMO to state that "without a doubt, Floyd has fought tougher competition." That is not clear to me.

Ok? We can agree to disagree here, because I'm tired of arguing the point. I've already stated what needed to be said. And, I do not hold fighters like Judah, Manfredy, and Gatti in high esteem. I do not believe they are a credit to Floyd's record. You, obviously do. We disagree. Period. Good night.

[SkillspayBills]

Actually the right word is "lost." If you feel the need to play English teacher, at least instruct correctly.

Now, as to the rest of your BS: What I saw was Castillo beating Floyd in their first fight. That's what I saw.

How do I explain Hatton taking Castillo down in 4? I explain it by the visual evidence. Hatton's body shots.

I furthermore believe that Tszyu holds up against De LaHoya. The more you attempt to run down Hatton's accomplishments, the more biased you appear.

My point is not biased. I objectively do not think their records can be clearly distinguished. There is not enough of a difference IMO to state that "without a doubt, Floyd has fought tougher competition." That is not clear to me.

Ok? We can agree to disagree here, because I'm tired of arguing the point. I've already stated what needed to be said. And, I do not hold fighters like Judah, Manfredy, and Gatti in high esteem. I do not believe they are a credit to Floyd's record. You, obviously do. We disagree. Period. Good night.

You do sound objective and biased my friend, because you are talking about more than two fighters on Floyd's record (Judah Manfredy and Gatti) but you fail to talk about more than 2 fighters on Hatton(nobodies).You do realize Floyd fought a prime Cas TWICE(I don't care if you think he won the first fight I think he won and Floyd settled all doubt with the second fight) years before Hatton did right, because that seems to be a tad oblivious to you. You are judging a person's resume based on two fights. If that is the case don't say "I can't tell whos resume is better" a resume is a COMPLETE list of who a fighter has fought and if you compare this COMPLETE list you will see Mayweathers competition by far outclasses Hatton. You could say Hattons biggest wins are up to par with Mayweather's but his resume does not match, although I do respect that you believe they match I think you are misinterpreting the word resume.

[phallus]

Interesting. Have you always felt Mayweather is vulnerable to the body?

not so much vulnerable, just untested. body punching is the best way to slow floyd down and stop him from running. the guys that tested floyd's chin never went to the body first, they should have. old school guys would pound the bod first then check the chin. that's the way to beat floyd, break him down with a body beating first, which is just haten's style

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

In reference to that conversation the fuss was made over how Mayweather looked in those first 4 rounds. Not whether he was hurt.

The guy said the only thing bad for Mayweather was the Judah brick shot.

He was trying to downplay the humiliation.

He was wrong.

You did not see the Judah fight.

[Fox McCloud]

not so much vulnerable, just untested. body punching is the best way to slow floyd down and stop him from running. the guys that tested floyd's chin never went to the body first, they should have. old school guys would pound the bod first then check the chin. that's the way to beat floyd, break him down with a body beating first, which is just haten's style

The question is whether Hatton will be able to go to the body. It's not like Floyd has been blessed fighting against morons who didn't think to try to go to the body. Bruseles's game plan was the body attack. Obviously Henry B isn't as skilled as Hatton, but still, Floyd has proven that his philly shell defense is able to block a lot of body punches. Castillo tried it in both fights. It worked well in the first fight, Floyd seemed to figure it out for the second fight.

Historic evidence hurts your theory that Floyd will slow down after a body attack though (at least slow him down significantly). Remember that a lot of body punches got through in Mayweather-Castillo I, and he still was fresh as hell in the 12th. I think Floyd is in such great shape that it will be very difficult to slow him down much. I only say this because in every Floyd fight I have seen (which is all of them), he always looks fresh as hell in round 12 (assuming it went that long).

[Wiley Hyena]

You do sound objective and biased my friend, because you are talking about more than two fighters on Floyd's record (Judah Manfredy and Gatti) but you fail to talk about more than 2 fighters on Hatton(nobodies).You do realize Floyd fought a prime Cas TWICE(I don't care if you think he won the first fight I think he won and Floyd settled all doubt with the second fight) years before Hatton did right, because that seems to be a tad oblivious to you. You are judging a person's resume based on two fights. If that is the case don't say "I can't tell whos resume is better" a resume is a COMPLETE list of who a fighter has fought and if you compare this COMPLETE list you will see Mayweathers competition by far outclasses Hatton. You could say Hattons biggest wins are up to par with Mayweather's but his resume does not match, although I do respect that you believe they match I think you are misinterpreting the word resume.

You can't be objective and biased at the same time. You may think I'm biased because you don't agree with me about this issue, or simply to try and discredit something you don't like. Either way you see it, I don't care. I don't feel its necessary to prove my objectivity by mutually proposing a defense of Floyd's position. IT was Hatton's position that was being unfairly attacked, my friend, so I set out the defense. If you don't agree, that's fine with me. But, don't accuse me of bias unless you can show that I'm categorically wrong. This you cannot do. Thus, it's your own bias that is exposed.

[phallus]

The question is whether Hatton will be able to go to the body. It's not like Floyd has been blessed fighting against morons who didn't think to try to go to the body. Bruseles's game plan was the body attack. Obviously Henry B isn't as skilled as Hatton, but still, Floyd has proven that his philly shell defense is able to block a lot of body punches. Castillo tried it in both fights. It worked well in the first fight, Floyd seemed to figure it out for the second fight.

Historic evidence hurts your theory that Floyd will slow down after a body attack though (at least slow him down significantly). Remember that a lot of body punches got through in Mayweather-Castillo I, and he still was fresh as hell in the 12th. I think Floyd is in such great shape that it will be very difficult to slow him down much. I only say this because in every Floyd fight I have seen (which is all of them), he always looks fresh as hell in round 12 (assuming it went that long).

true, but has anyone ever broken one of floyd's ribs? haten is a much more savage body puncher than castillo, thos short little arms seem to do a lot more damage when haten connects. pbf is always in shape though, and haten will gas after about 6, so yeah, he'll probably be running and pot shotting in the 12th, if it goes that long

[Addison]

You did not see the Judah fight.

Dios, you should really use your gift of intelligence to do something besides blindly defend every neurotic detail of Floyd Mayweather's career..

You're wasting your talent man.

[Addison]

not so much vulnerable, just untested. body punching is the best way to slow floyd down and stop him from running. the guys that tested floyd's chin never went to the body first, they should have. old school guys would pound the bod first then check the chin. that's the way to beat floyd, break him down with a body beating first, which is just haten's style

If Hatton wins by bodyshot I'm buying you a bottle of champagne.