Mayweather & Hatton: Adversity Means Very Little

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I heard they were high school sweethearts anyway. Maybe she was with the ugly bugger when they were young'ns.

That would be legitimate, and if that's the case, then I respect Ricky for staying with the girl who liked him for him. He didn't go out and get the trophy wife.

Dwyane Wade stayed with the fugly girl he knew since high school, also.

[MJ406]

"Hatton's best win is just as good as Mayweather's, if not better.
Mayweather's overall resume is better but his best opponents were at a lower weight.

Case closed."

if were talking about how victory is aquired then yeah that statement is dead on

Hatton's win over Kostya was more impressive because he stopped him.


but dude Castillo as Hatton's second toughest fight? Jose Luis didn't win a single round .. and got out landed every single round .. I know why you don't answer that bit

how is that competative at all?

and I don't care what everyone else says about Castillo being shot or what not .. but after seeing Castillo fight Herman .. and get a split decision ... my mind was made up

I didn't think Hatton could KO him . .granted that was a surprise

but my prediction based on seeing Castillo vs Herman .. was that Hatton vs Castillo would not be competative. (and look what happened)

your looking at the fact that its the name JLC .. the fighter who gave Floyd a very tough fight in 2002.

just because he gave Floyd (torn rotator cuff) a tough fight in 2002 doesn't mean he'd do so well in 2007 vs Hatton.

[Wiley Hyena]

I respectfully disagree for the following reasons:

Oscar Delahoya is BIGGER than Kostya Tszyu. Floyd beat a much bigger man. Ricky beat a guy in his own weight class.

Oscar Delahoya is BETTER than Kostya Tszyu. Oscar has better wins, better competition, a better legacy...everything. Oscar would NEVER get knocked out by Vince Phillips. Never. Ever. E.V.E.R.

A 33 year old Oscar at 154 is a tougher opponent than a 36 year old Tszyu at 140. Just my opinion.

I just do not agree that today's De LaHoya is without a doubt a tougher opponent than Kostya Tszyu. With all due respect, De LaHoya was a great fighter, but ever since he got knocked out by that body shot from Hopkins, he's been slipping. Oscar does not fight out of pride anymore. He fights for the money. I haven't seen him at his best in many years. And Azteca made a great point, Floyd's victory over Oscar was not very impressive at all. Hatton's victories over both Tszyu and Castillo were very impressive. If anything, they clarified his strength. Nothing much has been clarified by Floyd's fights. We already know he is a defensive wizard. What else has he got?

[Azteca]

That would be legitimate, and if that's the case, then I respect Ricky for staying with the girl who liked him for him. He didn't go out and get the trophy wife.

Dwyane Wade stayed with the fugly girl he knew since high school, also.

Daiiiim. And Wade is a beast. He could probably pull tons of tail even if he wasn't a ball player judged on his looks alone.

[Azteca]

1) I must refer you back to the size differential. How did Hatton look when he went to 147 for Collazo? How would Hatton look vs ANY 154er? Yes, you are going to struggle when you fight somebody as good as Oscar who is also two divisions above you. Floyd is a 140 guy. Oscar has been at 154/160 for five years.

2) Please remember that Tszyu was equally inactive.

3) If Tszyu came out for round 12, the whole story is different. Everybody who was watching the fight was shocked when he stayed on his stool. And the fight was close on the cards, though Hatton was clearly winning.

True story.

Who cares about this weight stuff. Hatton moved down to 140 after 147. True story but it is irrelevant.
Tszyu was actually a winner. DLH really hasn't won a fight for years and years. Other then uhhh- Mayorga. Mosley (granted it was a close fight), Hopkins, Sturm, Floyd. That's 2 wins he's had since he beat yory boy in 5-6 years.

Oh and granted Tszyu was probably out of prime a little bit, but the man didnt lose for years. At least we didn't see weakness out of him. We have seen plenty of weakness in DLH. Plenty.

[Wiley Hyena]

Who cares about this weight stuff. Hatton moved down to 140 after 147. True story but it is irrelevant.
Tszyu was actually a winner. DLH really hasn't won a fight for years and years. Other then uhhh- Mayorga. Mosley (granted it was a close fight), Hopkins, Sturm, Floyd. That's 2 wins he's had since he beat yory boy in 5-6 years.

Oh and granted Tszyu was probably out of prime a little bit, but the man didnt lose for years. At least we didn't see weakness out of him. We have seen plenty of weakness in DLH. Plenty.

Finally somebody who sees the light...........good post Azteca.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Daiiiim. And Wade is a beast. He could probably pull tons of tail even if he wasn't a ball player judged on his looks alone.

She has tried to clean herself up with the hair weave and the plastic *******. But it's still the same old ***** that he used to pound back at Marquette.

[Azteca]

She has tried to clean herself up with the hair weave and the plastic *******. But it's still the same old ***** that he used to pound back at Marquette.

Let's see some pics of this broad...

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Who cares about this weight stuff. Hatton moved down to 140 after 147. True story but it is irrelevant.
Tszyu was actually a winner. DLH really hasn't won a fight for years and years. Other then uhhh- Mayorga. Mosley (granted it was a close fight), Hopkins, Sturm, Floyd. That's 2 wins he's had since he beat yory boy in 5-6 years.

Oh and granted Tszyu was probably out of prime a little bit, but the man didnt lose for years. At least we didn't see weakness out of him. We have seen plenty of weakness in DLH. Plenty.

Who cares about this weight stuff? pick any top 154er. ANY. ANY. Tell me how Hatton would look against that guy.

It is interesting to hear YOU say that the weight is a non-issue when Ricky himself IMMEDIATELY talked about the weight at the post-fight interview. Even if it's a non-issue for you... it is an issue for Ricky.

Here is who knocked out Oscar: Bernard Hopkins
Here is who knocked out Tszyu: Vince Phillips

....are you really sure you wanna talk about "showing weakness".

Tszyu looked good in his previous fight vs Sharmba. Oscar looked good in his previous fight vs Mayorga.

What are you saying, campeon?

[Fox McCloud]

Hatton's best win is just as good as Mayweather's, if not better.
Mayweather's overall resume is better but his best opponents were at a lower weight.

Case closed.

I'll disagree with Dios and say that Mayweather's best win was the Corrales fight. De La Hoya isn't going to go down as elite at 154, but Corrales will be known as an excellent fighter at 130.

Either way, one of those two fighters can be argued better than Tzsyu. Take your pick:

Do you like the super accomplished fighter who is a bit past his prime.

OR

The young undefeated badass who has been runnin tha game on the division for a while.

That being said, I don't think there is much separating the biggest wins of the two fighters. Tszyu was an excellent fighter, simple as that.