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  • TomC03
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    #61
    Originally posted by jamesbrown
    u are worthless really
    would u rather be a top mma fight and make 200,000+ a fight
    or a top boxer and see 1,000,000+ a fight really
    oh and Rampage credited his win over chuck to training with a "real boxing coach" and training with pro "boxers" get it straight
    Rampage woulda beat Liddell regardless

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    • Genghis Con
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      #62
      Originally posted by jamesbrown
      u are worthless really
      would u rather be a top mma fight and make 200,000+ a fight
      or a top boxer and see 1,000,000+ a fight really
      oh and Rampage credited his win over chuck to training with a "real boxing coach" and training with pro "boxers" get it straight
      And Rampage credited his 1st win over Chuck for training with some real wrestlers like Tito Ortiz and some real submission artists like Ivan Salaverry...

      whats your point?

      The only boxers making any money are PBF and DLH.

      Chuck made over 7 Million last year and Tito Ortiz made over 10 Million. The average boxer makes 3x less than the average MMA fighter.

      Main event fighters get paid $2.50 per PPV buy + their contract.

      Chuck is paid $500,000 to show and $500,000 to win + his PPVs do 1+Million buys so he gets another $2.50 for each PPV buy...add that up

      there are at least 15 guys with that contract in the UFC.

      Fedor was paid a flat rate of 3 Million per fight with pride and 2 mil with Bodog fight.

      No other boxers besides PBF and DLH make that kinda money.

      Period!

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      • jamesbrown
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        #63
        Originally posted by TomC03
        Rampage woulda beat Liddell regardless
        not with one swift half hook half uppercut really ****ing easy though

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        • tyson
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          #64
          Originally posted by Genghis Con
          Fedor would lose in a boxing match, I have said that all along. If Klitschko fought Cro Cop in a no glove Kickboxing match Klitschko would get demolished.
          If he fought Fedor in a MMA match he would get demolished.
          Agreed. However, Vitali could win that kickboxing match.
          I think he was european champion in chickboxing before he came to his senses and started making money in boxing.

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          • Genghis Con
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            #65
            Originally posted by tyson
            Agreed. However, Vitali could win that kickboxing match.
            I think he was european champion in chickboxing before he came to his senses and started making money in boxing.
            Mirko Cro Cop made it to the K-1 GP finals and KTFO almost every top Kickboxer in the world. Vitali has trained with Cro Cop before and he's admitted that he wouldn't dare step in the ring with Mirko...

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              #66
              Originally posted by Genghis Con
              And Rampage credited his 1st win over Chuck for training with some real wrestlers like Tito Ortiz and some real submission artists like Ivan Salaverry...

              whats your point?

              The only boxers making any money are PBF and DLH.

              Chuck made over 7 Million last year and Tito Ortiz made over 10 Million. The average boxer makes 3x less than the average MMA fighter.

              Main event fighters get paid $2.50 per PPV buy + their contract.

              Chuck is paid $500,000 to show and $500,000 to win + his PPVs do 1+Million buys so he gets another $2.50 for each PPV buy...add that up

              there are at least 15 guys with that contract in the UFC.

              Fedor was paid a flat rate of 3 Million per fight with pride and 2 mil with Bodog fight.

              No other boxers besides PBF and DLH make that kinda money.

              Period!
              winky, taylor, hatton, pbf, cotto, pac, and the heavyweight champs pull numbers like that get it straight

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              • tyson
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                #67
                Oh? Okay, I don't know that. Then no Klitschko could win that kickboxing match

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                • Genghis Con
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by jamesbrown
                  winky, taylor, hatton, pbf, cotto, pac, and the heavyweight champs pull numbers like that get it straight
                  Show me

                  As far as I know all those guys are getting paid in the low millions and PBF couldnt pull a big paycheck unless he fought Oscar...

                  MMA is still a small show...imagine in 10 years when Boxing is dead and MMA is doing 3 Million PPV buys a month how much money they will be getting...

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                  • TomC03
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Genghis Con
                    And Rampage credited his 1st win over Chuck for training with some real wrestlers like Tito Ortiz and some real submission artists like Ivan Salaverry...

                    whats your point?

                    The only boxers making any money are PBF and DLH.

                    Chuck made over 7 Million last year and Tito Ortiz made over 10 Million. The average boxer makes 3x less than the average MMA fighter.

                    Main event fighters get paid $2.50 per PPV buy + their contract.

                    Chuck is paid $500,000 to show and $500,000 to win + his PPVs do 1+Million buys so he gets another $2.50 for each PPV buy...add that up

                    there are at least 15 guys with that contract in the UFC.

                    Fedor was paid a flat rate of 3 Million per fight with pride and 2 mil with Bodog fight.

                    No other boxers besides PBF and DLH make that kinda money.

                    Period!
                    I don't know where you're getting your info on salaries in the UFC...

                    From mmaweekly.com: "As previously reported by MMAWeekly, each TUF winner's contract bind the fighter exclusively to the UFC for three years, with three fights per year. In the first year, the salary for each fight is $12,000 to fight and an additional $12,000 to win. Fighting income for the year would range from $36,000 to $72,000, depending on wins and losses. In the second year, it's $16,000 and $16,000 per fight, meaning that fighting income for the year would range from $48,000 to $96,000. In the third year, it's $22,000 and $22,000 per fight, meaning that fighting income for the year would range from $66,000 to $122,000. That is actually a six-figure income in one year out of three, or zero years out of three, depending on wins and losses."

                    "Fighters from TUF who did not win the competition generally get paid no less than $5,000 for each of their UFC fights (with rare exceptions), while the UFC's minimum for fighters who have not been on The Ultimate Fighter is still $2,000. This can be seen as recently as UFC 61 earlier this month."

                    "UFC 61 Fighter Salaries
                    Event took place on July 8, 2006 and aired on PPV
                    -Tito Ortiz: $210,000 (defeated Ken Shamrock in co-main event)
                    -Tim Sylvia: $120,000 (defeated Andrei Arlovski in co-main event)
                    -Ken Shamrock: $100,000 (lost to Tito Ortiz in co-main event)
                    -Andrei Arlovski: $90,000 (lost to Tim Sylvia in co-main event)
                    -Frank Mir: $56,000 (defeated Dan Christison)
                    -Joe Stevenson: $24,000 (defeated Yves Edwards)
                    -Jeff Monson: $20,000 (defeated Anthony Perosh)
                    -Drew Fickett: $12,000 (defeated Kurt Pellegrino)
                    -Josh Burkman: $10,000 (defeated Josh Neer)
                    -Hermes Franca: $8,000 (defeated Joe Jordan)
                    -Yves Edwards: $8,000 (lost to Joe Stevenson)
                    -Josh Neer: $6,000 (lost to Josh Burkman)
                    -Cheick Kongo: $6,000 (defeated Gilbert Aldana)
                    -Dan Christison: $5,000 (lost to Frank Mir)
                    -Joe Jordan: $4,000 (lost to Hermes Franca)
                    -Anthony Perosh: $3,000 (lost to Jeff Monson)
                    -Gilbert Aldana: $2,000 (lost to Cheick Kongo)
                    -Kurt Pellegrino: $2,000 (lost to Drew Fickett)
                    Gross Totals:
                    Disclosed Fighter Payroll: $676,000
                    Known Event Revenue: Unknown (live gate figures not yet available; PPV sales figures not yet available)"

                    "UFC Ultimate Fight Night 5
                    Event took place on June 28, 2006 and aired on Spike TV
                    -Anderson Silva: $36,000 (defeated Chris Leben in main event)
                    -Rashad Evans: $24,000 (defeated Stephan Bonnar)
                    -Stephan Bonnar: $16,000 (lost to Rashad Evans)
                    -Jon Fitch: $16,000 (defeated Thiago Alves)
                    -Josh Koscheck: $14,000 (defeated Dave Menne)
                    -Jason Lambert: $14,000 (defeated Branden Lee Hinkle)
                    -Luke Cummo: $12,000 (lost to Jonathan Goulet)
                    -Rob MacDonald: $10,000 (defeated Kristian Rothaermel)
                    -Mark Hominick: $8,000 (defeated Jorge Gurgel)
                    -Chris Leben: $7,000 (lost to Anderson Silva in main event)
                    -Thiago Alves: $6,000 (lost to Jon Fitch)
                    -Jonathan Goulet: $6,000 (defeated Luke Cummo)
                    -Kristian Rothaermel: $5,000 (lost to Rob MacDonald)
                    -Jorge Gurgel: $5,000 (lost to Mark Hominick)
                    -Justin Levens: $5,000 (lost to Jorge Santiago)
                    -Dave Menne: $5,000 (lost to Josh Koscheck)
                    -Branden Lee Hinkle: $4,000 (lost to Jason Lambert)
                    -Jorge Santiago: $4,000 (defeated Justin Levens)
                    Gross Totals:
                    Disclosed Fighter Payroll: $197,000
                    Known Event Revenue: $358,368 (includes live gate of $134,368 and TV ad revenue of $224,000)"

                    Your numbers are NOWHERE NEAR the actual salaries.

                    Also, I'd like your source where Klitschko said he wouldn't step into a kickboxing match with Cro Cop. (I think he'd be smart not to step in with Cro Cop, but I'd like to see where he actually said that.)

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                    • jamesbrown
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Genghis Con
                      Show me

                      As far as I know all those guys are getting paid in the low millions and PBF couldnt pull a big paycheck unless he fought Oscar...

                      MMA is still a small show...imagine in 10 years when Boxing is dead and MMA is doing 3 Million PPV buys a month how much money they will be getting...
                      pbf couldn't pull 25 million til he fought oscar lol
                      pbf has been get 2-7 mils since last 7 fights before oscar
                      plus u said u love boxing that is why ur here lol i smell a liar
                      do boxing fans got to mma sights just to talk trash???? really???
                      pfc>>>>ufc in entertainment easy

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