Kimbo Fight

[Genghis Con]

Its much harder to learn how to properly defend a takedown than it is to box. It's also much harder to get a Brazilian Jujitsu Black Belt than to become a WBA Boxing champion.

Wrestlers who have won medals in the olympics and competed in wrestling all their lives come into to MMA and can take down pretty much anybody. World class wrestlers are on another level. You can train takedowns for 20 years and still not catch up to these guys..

Boxing doesnt work in a real fight, that has been proven over and over again. All that head bobbing and footwork will get your head kicked in and legs kicked off. Or get you taken down and have a limb snapped off by a submission.
Boxing is a sport
MMA is a legit fight.

[raysan]

i think this fight proved a lot. Kimbo isnt a "street fighter", he is pretty much a bare knuckle boxer. Now being a boxer, wouldnt you think it would be easier to get into boxing since that is what he does? that would be the logical answer, but Kimbo would get killed and he knows that, so he goes into something he can learn relatively easy and be successful, MMA. I think this proves you can take a good boxer, put him in training and he could compete with success in MMA, but in no way would a Mixed Martial Artist EVER be able to compete in just boxing.

[Genghis Con]

Alot of MMA fighters are K-1 Kickboxing champions and Muay Thai Kickboxing champions.

Do some reasearch bro.

Dana White offered Mayweather $2o Mil up front + a PPV Bonus on Revenue to fight Sean Sherk since he's the #1 P4P Boxer in the history of Boxing and was calling out the UFC.

What happened? he would of made more money than he did for the DLH fight...

He woulda gotten demolished like a stuck pig in under 3 minutes..thats what happened...

That alone and the fact that PBF apologized is enough to prove that MMA fighters>>>Boxers...

[Genghis Con]

i think this fight proved a lot. Kimbo isnt a "street fighter", he is pretty much a bare knuckle boxer. Now being a boxer, wouldnt you think it would be easier to get into boxing since that is what he does? that would be the logical answer, but Kimbo would get killed and he knows that, so he goes into something he can learn relatively easy and be successful, MMA. I think this proves you can take a good boxer, put him in training and he could compete with success in MMA, but in no way would a Mixed Martial Artist EVER be able to compete in just boxing.

Do some reasearch bro...

Kimbo Slice fought a F-Level 1-1 MMA fighter named Sean Gannon with his "Boxing Rules".......guess what happend?

He got KTFO!

Kimbo Slice was challenged by a C level MMA fighter by the name of Paul Buenetello and Kimbo Turned it down because he woulda gotten KTFO in 2 minutes.

If Kimbo fights any MMA fighter he would get destroyed, thats why they "Hand Picked" Ray Mercer because Mercer is not a fighter...hes a "Boxer" and a Olympic level world Class Boxer. Boxers are easy to beat up so he chose the boxer and not an MMA fighter


you get it?

[raysan]

Alot of MMA fighters are K-1 Kickboxing champions and Muay Thai Kickboxing champions.

Do some reasearch bro.

Dana White offered Mayweather $2o Mil up front + a PPV Bonus on Revenue to fight Sean Sherk since he's the #1 P4P Boxer in the history of Boxing and was calling out the UFC.

What happened? he would of made more money than he did for the DLH fight...

He woulda gotten demolished like a stuck pig in under 3 minutes..thats what happened...

That alone and the fact that PBF apologized is enough to prove that MMA fighters>>>Boxers...

you dont understand what i am saying. Look ill put it like this, with training Floyd Mayweather would be able to compete in MMA because of his superior boxing skills that cant be taught in a short time, but with all the training in the world Sean Sherk couldnt compete in boxing because of the skill level. Therefore, lets say there are two years to train for a mega fight, I would take any boxer to beat a Mixed Martial Artist, do you not agree?. Floyd might not be a good example because he lacks one punch knockout power, but still with four ounce gloves and the accuracy he possesses im sure hed put Sherk to sleep.

[Genghis Con]

i think this fight proved a lot. Kimbo isnt a "street fighter", he is pretty much a bare knuckle boxer. Now being a boxer, wouldnt you think it would be easier to get into boxing since that is what he does? that would be the logical answer, but Kimbo would get killed and he knows that, so he goes into something he can learn relatively easy and be successful, MMA. I think this proves you can take a good boxer, put him in training and he could compete with success in MMA, but in no way would a Mixed Martial Artist EVER be able to compete in just boxing.

you dont understand what i am saying. Look ill put it like this, with training Floyd Mayweather would be able to compete in MMA because of his superior boxing skills that cant be taught in a short time, but with all the training in the world Sean Sherk couldnt compete in boxing because of the skill level. Therefore, lets say there are two years to train for a mega fight, I would take any boxer to beat a Mixed Martial Artist, do you not agree?. Floyd might not be a good example because he lacks one punch knockout power, but still with four ounce gloves and the accuracy he possesses im sure hed put Sherk to sleep.

There is a sub par MMA fighter named Chris Lytle who loses to every good MMA fighter he faces but his boxing record is 13-1.

Why can he do good in boxing and not MMA?

Mayweather can train MMA for 8 years and come fight Sherk and he will still get taken down and pounded out.

Matt Hughes has wrestled for his entire life and is an Olympic wrestler and 3 Time National Champion at Iowa Univ(best wrestling college in the states) and he still cant stop Sean Sherk from taking him down...what makes you think that Mayweather with 2 years of training can do it?

Plenty of MMA fighters compete professionally in Boxing and have better boxing records than they do MMA.

I would take Mayweather over any MMA guy in a boxing match though but not in a MMA match by a long shot.

[raysan]

Do some reasearch bro...

Kimbo Slice fought a F-Level 1-1 MMA fighter named Sean Gannon with his "Boxing Rules".......guess what happend?

He got KTFO!

Kimbo Slice was challenged by a C level MMA fighter by the name of Paul Buenetello and Kimbo Turned it down because he woulda gotten KTFO in 2 minutes.

If Kimbo fights any MMA fighter he would get destroyed, thats why they "Hand Picked" Ray Mercer because Mercer is not a fighter...hes a "Boxer" and a Olympic level world Class Boxer. Boxers are easy to beat up so he chose the boxer and not an MMA fighter


you get it?

Kimbo did not get "KTFO", he competed, demolished Gannons face, but had stamina problems, which should be expected from someone who doesnt even do it as a sport. This fight kinda helps prove my point, a guy off the street with okay boxing skills beat up a mixed martial artist who competes in the sport, and as you pointed out even has a win. If Kimbo had any stamina he would have killed Gannon, i mean just look at the man's face after Kimbo got done with him.


And thanks for pointing that out too. Kimbo fighting a boxer, why not use boxing rules? The reason for that is because even an old out of shape boxer would probably have beat Kimbo. Kimbo took the time to learn a couple ground moves, submissions and was succesful. Why wouldnt Kimbo, being a bareknuckle boxer want boxing rules? The answer is because the skill level to be a proffesional boxer can't be taught in a few months, and going against even an old, fat ray mercer, Kimbo knows that.

[tyson]

Its much harder to learn how to properly defend a takedown than it is to box. It's also much harder to get a Brazilian Jujitsu Black Belt than to become a WBA Boxing champion.

Wrestlers who have won medals in the olympics and competed in wrestling all their lives come into to MMA and can take down pretty much anybody. World class wrestlers are on another level. You can train takedowns for 20 years and still not catch up to these guys..

Boxing doesnt work in a real fight, that has been proven over and over again. All that head bobbing and footwork will get your head kicked in and legs kicked off. Or get you taken down and have a limb snapped off by a submission.
Boxing is a sport
MMA is a legit fight.

Is it much harder to get a black belt in ju jitsu than to become a wba champion in boxing?
I'll take you up on that. If you train boxing for (i don't know how long it takes to get a black belt in bjj, but let's say 7 years) and you win yourself a wba belt, I'll gladly try to get a black belt in bjj in the same amount of time.

How's that?
That statement is close to the most ignorant thing I've ever read anywhere.
How many black belts in bjj exists?
Wanna know how many WBA champions who exist? 12.

[raysan]

Chris Lytle? thanks for pointing that out, his 13 wins have come against guys with 600 total losses, so dont act like he is a prospect or anything of that sort. I mean 15 fights and his oppenents have a combined 600 losses, i was in awe when i saw that, ha.

[tyson]

Chris Lytle? thanks for pointing that out, his 13 wins have come against guys with 600 total losses, so dont act like he is a prospect or anything of that sort. I mean 14 fights and his oppenents have a combined 600 losses, i was in awe when i saw that, ha.

Damn! That's about the worst record you'll ever see.