Marvin Hagler: "I See No Skill in The UFC"

[demirturk]

All i'm saying is i agree with hagler most mma fighters have no skill esspecially the stand up one's. some have skill on the floor but only a few. Theres this one fighter in japan i think his name is kid yamato or something he is bloody skilled in the ground work. Also regarding that video of the kickboxer vs boxing, have a look at andy souwer i think his name is all he does is boxer and maybe kicks once a fight and he ko's everybody in k1 max.

WTF ?? andy souwer has brutal leg kicks ! hes a pure thai fighter !

[demirturk]

lol who the **** is that boxer i never heard of him?

mark hunt.,mighty mo and ray sefo dont use kicks! lmao and they beat up all the kickboxers...but when they went into boxing they got knocked silly.


since you showed a nobody boxer ill show you a somebody kickboxer fighting a nobody boxer and get knocked silly and worse.

iron jaw ray sefo

he got Ko'd with a jab by shilt in K1
oh and sefo , hunt, can take a leg kick , they don't throw them a lot but they can take it.

[major handz]

you think im dumb or something?

i know mma and boxing dont talke to me like i dont know **** ok, im sick of you ignorant asses not grasping the point!

thats what makes Boxing as a sport more difficult then MMA lack of options...so yous low punching guys would get worked in boxing you get it?

but i seen some guys who cant box for **** succeed in mma by taking it to the groudn.

bj penn would get killed in a boxing match and never make it to the top 20 ever or to be a titlist...but in MMA at least he has a chance!

do you get the point?

being limited is harder, having more options gives you more ways to have a chance at victory.

wrestling harder then MMA
Boxing Harder then MMA
why? because they are limited.

most mma fighters fight in a conventional muay thai stance not a typical boxing stance because they have to defend knees,kicks and take downs aswell and not to mention they use open finger gloves much smaller then standard boxers best believe if a fight was based soley on just punching there would be more performance in there stand up game oposed to boxers who just have to defend punches ,in mma its very tactical.a mma fighter might look like he cant take a punch but many boxers can not take a big punch from a 4oz glove yet alone a 4 oz glove while worrying about defending a kick or a knee or thai clinch or a take down or some kind of standing submission.

the whole point of the sport is to submit your opponent or win by knock out where talking from a objective aspect,just stating opinions on why each one is tactical at its own pace ,i train in both and i dont down play either sport there both a science from both viewers and a fighter perspectives

[demirturk]

the only guy i seen who has sweet stand up and can move so beauitfully and fluid is anderson silva that guy was like ali floating in the ring he can switch to boxing, then muay thai like that.

crocop is just deadly but he gets lazy and wants that 1 big kick from a counter.

true. wanderlei has some great knees too ,(vs rampage)

[badnewsbrown]

in the ufc when they are standing up, i really dont see much skill or art at all as hagler says. in that position they are just street fighters.

[demirturk]

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[yrrej]

Hagler was a great fighter, but he's always been full of himself. Who else would name himself "Marvelous". I'd agree, the boxing skills aren't there, but I have yet to see anyone who master all the phases of a mixed martial arts contest, and some of those guys are pretty damn good.....

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

ufc is for fat wite bois

it isnt lik boxing at all

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

Thank you Captain Obvious.

[Domain]

ufc is for fat wite bois

it isnt lik boxing at all