Marvin Hagler: "I See No Skill in The UFC"

[FluugMacMan]

problem w/MMA is its not true skill. Its who comes in stronger that day. Gonzaga.Mirko for example. Mirko would have murdeled him on any other day. Yes there is technique, but its about the ground. When your on your back theres no balance, your resting [off your feet], just far more limiting than boxing and far far less skill. Theres more moves but its whos stronger than can put the move on. You dont have to be a "strong" guy to win in boxing. Its all skill...period.

I've trained both [competed as well] and boxing is a much more grueling.

How come you disclaimer your remake, when what you said clearly shows that your disclaimer is pure BS? Because if you had trained in both, you would know that BJJ in MMA is NOT about the strong guy winning, nor does your skill set diminish when you are on the ground.

You haven't trained in both, and you certainly haven't competed at any competent levels. You can't disclaimer your lack of knowledge and knowhow.

Tip #1
When you're unsure about a subject, just avoid it. Do not make up fake facts about fighting, because when you're on a fighting forum, chances are there maybe someone on that forum that has some knowledge and could call you up on your statements.

[layzieb81]

The best fighter in the sport is a russian combat samboist with a thing for strategy.

Liddell is a paper tiger built up by the nuthugger president.

And the reason boxing still around is that you deliver quick and easy.

But sometimes things are never quick. Nor easy.

Quit thinking in one dimention and start thinking in four.

Umm, you mean the only reason MMA is around is because the fights are quik and easy (fast knockouts) which is the ONLY reason thats keeping it on two legs. People tune in because of the "boxing" not the rolling around on the ground. As soon as that stops, say goodbye to this fad.

[jamesbrown]

not suprising a GREAT boxer doesn't see any skill they hate hunging and lack of standup skillz by some

[FluugMacMan]

funny how the best fighter in the sport is a "striker" aka a POOR MAN'S BOXER (liddell)

A) He spent most of his life in Kempo karate
B) He's a wrestler
Do you really expect a man who spent his life in Kempo Karate and wrestling to suddenly be a world-class boxer? Come on.

UFC = big right now because people just want to see blood/gore and someone get brutally KO'd. UFC is the latest fad for college frat boys to circle jerk over. its the new world series of poker. its all flash and gore and ZERO SUBSTANCE

People switch from "it's just boring rolling on the ground" to "flashy brutal KOs" pretty quick. MMA is the art of REAL fighting. Fighting takes on a variety of levels. Real fighting takes on many levels, and requires a lot of skill to be able to navigate each level effectively.

BOXING = 10 times more substance and style, which is why its lasted so long. an AVERAGE skilled boxer is more skilled and honed in one area then the best the UFC has to offer

Yes, he's much more skilled at boxing, but boxing isn't the only skill that matters.

UFC may be winning some ratings now but its not built for the long haul. its a FAD. i'd give you 10 more reasons it wont last but i dont feel like typing

UFC may fade, I wont debate that, but MMA will not. MMA is fighting at it's purest LEGAL level in the US.

[porlie]

Hall-of-Fame former chamion Marvin Hagler is not impressed with the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Hagler tells the Ottawa Sun that he does not see any skill in the UFC, and thinks boxing will be back in the swing once a superstar is found. [details]

Haglers right MMA is more hype then reality, the fights arent as good as people think but because its got the hype people are getting on it. I've been to 1 MMA show there were 5 bouts on and 1 was good the other 4 were boring. Any boxing show (amatuer or pro) has been way better for overall quality of fights.
When a superstar comes along in boxing , boxing will blow MMA clean outta the water IMO.

[Grappler_Baki60]

2 different sciences both take a tremendous amount of talent

marvin hagler would be roast pork in guard with a bjj submissionist on top of him,and alot of mma fighters would leave on stretchers trying to box with the likes of a marvin hagler for 12 rounds ,i train in boxing and bjj and let me tell you they both dish out alot of heart and talent to compete in.

Haha idiot! Marvin is his prime will k.O anyone in the ufc.

[ml2niceguy]

god would this goddam discussion end already

[Technical_Skill]

I prefer boxing,

But anyone who think UFC has no skill at all is kidding themselves,

some of those guys are the real deal.

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

god would this goddam discussion end already

I'm totally with you. I wish Boxers would honestly let it go.

[McNulty]

Hmm, does Gracie ring a bell??? Royce was outweighed by atleast 100lbs. against guys who can also bench press 3 times Royce's own weight, on top of that 'roid ragin worse than Bonds, Sosa, and Big Mac put together. Umm, another more recent example: Randy Couture was outsized by a 6'8 Sasquatch named Tim Sylvia. What happened?? If size didn't matter in boxing. Why the hell did RJJ not bother w/ the likes of Tyson and Lewis?? Jones knew what would happen against talented MACK TRUCKS!!

I didnt say BIGGER...I said STRONGER. Big difference homie.