Buy or Sell: Drawing the Color Line

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Did Jack ever the pay the $3 in damages?

He paid around $1,200 to $1,500 in compensatory damages. Costs that the CAC incurred preparing and formalizing the contract.

Dempsey lost faith in the CAC and breached the contract via a public announcement (sometine around July '26 I think) that he was out and would be figting Tunney, for Rickard.

CAC sued and got an injuction that shut down Chicago as a fight site, but Philadelphia, (in a different federal district) which was building a new stadium for the sesquicentennial celebration, was all in.

The suit came to an end in 1931 or 1932 and the court found, and the appealtte court up held, that Dempsey did indeed breach a binding contract but once he publicly breached the contract the CAC should have stop moving forward (spending money) with the fight.

The Court saw fit to award the CAC the monies lost up to the date that Dempsey made the public breach.

But the CAC was suing for $800K, they seemed to have based the figure on what the CAC was offering Dempsey. The court refused and the appellate court agreed that they were not entitled to that money because there was no way to ascertain whether the fight would/could/should have produced the claimed numbers being offered to the court for punitive damages (800K).

I thought the 800K figure odd considering that was what they were planning on paying Dempsey. The fight would have to have earned considerably more if everyone was going to profit. So it seems they kind of pulled the 800K figure out of their butt.

The fight probably should have been worth a sight over two million IMO.

T will correct/challenge anything I may have flubbed on, and that's cool.

[travestyny]

- - Did Jack ever the pay the $3 in damages?

Don't know. But I know he also left all that money on the table.

[travestyny]

He paid around $1,200 to $1,500 in compensatory damages. Costs that the CAC incurred preparing and formalizing the contract.

Dempsey lost faith in the CAC and breached the contract via a public announcement (sometine around July '26 I think) that he was out and would be figting Tunney, for Rickard.

CAC sued and got an injuction that shut down Chicago as a fight site, but Philadelphia, (in a different federal district) which was building a new stadium for the sesquicentennial celebration, was all in.

The suit came to an end in 1931 or 1932 and the court found, and the appealtte court up held, that Dempsey did indeed breach a binding contract but once he publicly breached the contract the CAC should have stop moving forward (spending money) with the fight.

The Court saw fit to award the CAC the monies lost up to the date that Dempsey made the public breach.

But the CAC was suing for $800K, they seemed to have based the figure on what the CAC was offering Dempsey. The court refused and the appellate court agreed that they were not entitled to that money because there was no way to ascertain whether the fight would/could/should have produced the claimed numbers being offered to the court for punitive damages (800K).

I thought the 800K figure odd considering that was what they were planning on paying Dempsey. The fight would have to have earned considerably more if everyone was going to profit. So it seems they kind of pulled the 800K figure out of their butt.

The fight probably should have been worth a sight over two million IMO.

T will correct/challenge anything I may have flubbed on, and that's cool.

Nope, I won't. I really don't have much interest in talking about this topic again. I just wish Queenie wouldn't lie about Wills ducking this fight. Wills doesn't deserve to be lied about.

Hope you are well.

[Dr. Z]

Very simple.

1. I never posted at that other site. Never had any account there.

2. Go check the thunderdome where I began the permanent ban bet that you backed out of because you didn't have shlt.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/n...-wills-footage

3. CRT thread you refused to answer questions and then declared you were done...because you had nothing.

1 ) Wills can be seen Firpo, Madden, and Uzcudn. He doesn't look very good in all three of them. I will bet you this, you are running. The bet is I will show you footage, NOT THE FULL FIGHT!

2 ) I never claimed or wrote I had the full fights, only that I have seen them. Its dishonest word twisting on you part, and other posters should know that you do this. Learn to read what I write.

3 ) I replied to your junk CRT thread a few times. Your obsessed with it, and I'm not hear to educate you.

4 ) What is the Avatar picture all about?

[QueensburyRules]

Nope, I won't. I really don't have much interest in talking about this topic again. I just wish Queenie wouldn't lie about Wills ducking this fight. Wills doesn't deserve to be lied about.

Hope you are well.

- - Already told U inner idjit I don't accuse Wills of ducking Tunney.

He like Dempsey were fed up with getting yanked around by politicians and I'd guess he was figuring on fighting Jack straight away after he beat Tunney and got upended just like Jack.

Time for you to write a CRT best seller me thinks...snickers...

[travestyny]

1 ) Wills can be seen Firpo, Madden, and Uzcudn. He doesn't look very good in all three of them. I will bet you this, you are running. The bet is I will show you footage, NOT THE FULL FIGHT!

2 ) I never claimed or wrote I had the full fights, only that I have seen them. Its dishonest word twisting on you part, and other posters should know that you do this. Learn to read what I write.

3 ) I replied to your junk CRT thread a few times. Your obsessed with it, and I'm not hear to educate you.

4 ) What is the Avatar picture all about?

No, that's not what the bet was about because I told you specifically that all we had was those three fights packaged into one video with minutes of each one, and you claimed that you had videos that you refused to release because you promised not to.

So then I asked what exactly you have and you were being evasive. Which clearly means you don't have anything on Wills that we haven't seen. Very limited footage.


Why would you even mention what you have that you can't share if you weren't talking about more that wasn't already out there? I can go pull up the old posts and prove that I already stated what was out there, and you alluded to more.

Maybe you should stop trying to be deceitful and you wouldn't get called on your bullshlt.


Last time you responded to the CRT thread you ducked my question and told me to go talk to myself. And we both know why. You couldn't answer the question because it would wreck your argument, and you had nothing left.


Why the hell are you so worried about my avatar picture? It's an album cover.



And one more time, learn the difference between "your" and "you're." While you are at it, learn the difference between "here" and "hear." You aren't very educated, are you?

[travestyny]

Facts were when the political climate in NY/NJ cooled the fight was viable but Wills, bless him, walked.

You are confusing me and yourself.

Is this about Wills/Dempsey or Wills/Tunney. Because you only mentioned Dempsey in the rest of this post.


Please put the bottle down.

[travestyny]

1 ) Wills can be seen Firpo, Madden, and Uzcudn. He doesn't look very good in all three of them. I will bet you this, you are running. The bet is I will show you footage, NOT THE FULL FIGHT!

Here is the proof that I alluded to. The bet was not about what I already knew you liar.


Why else would you answer this post:

Come on, bruh. How many minutes of the Firpo fight did you see?

If you have these full fights, post them up, because I've only managed to see edited pieces of two rounds against Firpo. In fact, I remember these three fights, along with training footage, all being packaged into 11 minutes.

By saying this:

Hello there. Unfortunately some fights in my collection are not for uploading as those were the rules I agreed to when I obtained them.

Because you were trying to get one over on me, and it didn't work. Explain what you were saying that you can't upload. I'll wait....

[Dr. Z]

No, that's not what the bet was about because I told you specifically that all we had was those three fights packaged into one video with minutes of each one, and you claimed that you had videos that you refused to release because you promised not to.

So then I asked what exactly you have and you were being evasive. Which clearly means you don't have anything on Wills that we haven't seen. Very limited footage.


Why would you even mention what you have that you can't share if you weren't talking about more that wasn't already out there? I can go pull up the old posts and prove that I already stated what was out there, and you alluded to more.

Maybe you should stop trying to be deceitful and you wouldn't get called on your bullshlt.


Last time you responded to the CRT thread you ducked my question and told me to go talk to myself. And we both know why. You couldn't answer the question because it would wreck your argument, and you had nothing left.


Why the hell are you so worried about my avatar picture? It's an album cover.

Your confused. Again. I trade and have some stuff that I have agreed not to share. I'm not going to break that agreement based on you wanting to see something, got it. Other things I share. I was the one how shared Langford vs Jeannette to some people before it was uploaded on you tube. I made it clear what I'd bet on. You altered the words ( again and t'c and c's ) Your a dishonest person and a forgetful person ( See your mistake admitting I said Dempsey ****** Wills ) recently. I answered some questions in your CRT Bs thread and got bored with it.

The picture of your avatar is unclear. I'm asking what is it of?

[travestyny]

Your confused. Again. I trade and have some stuff that I have agreed not to share. I'm not going to break that agreement based on you wanting to see something, got it. Other things I share. I was the one how shared Langford vs Jeannette to some people before it was uploaded on you tube. I made it clear what I'd bet on. You altered the words ( again and t'c and c's ) Your a dishonest person and a forgetful person ( See your mistake admitting I said Dempsey ****** Wills ) recently. I answered some questions in your CRT Bs thread and got bored with it.

The picture of your avatar is unclear. I'm asking what is it of?

No, I'm not confused.

I told you I'd seen those three fights packaged with training into 11 minutes.

I asked you what you have beyond that.

YOU said you have other things that you refused to release.


What are they? Do you have more of Wills or not? Because we both know you don't and you are full of shlt. You basically just admit it by saying that what you've seen of Wills was EXACTLY what we all know is already out there. 11 minutes of him training and a few rounds in those 3 fights.


Dempsey ****** Wills???? lol


If you are so interested in my avatar, go look up the band "The Roots," and their album titled, "Things Fall Apart." There are about 4 alternate album covers for the album. My avatar is one of the alternate album covers. Nothing else to it so I don't know why you are asking so much.