How would Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano fare against modern Heavies?

[Ivich]

Marciano aint making 175. He spent 8 months in the training camp just to make 184-187. There is a reason why Marcianos a heavyweight and Archie Moore even at same weight as Marciano is still a Light Heavyweight.
It has to do with strength for one. See Marciano could never get to 175. like Moore could unless he lost to much muscle mass cause hes not a light heavyweight
Marciano weighed 192 his first professional fight

And 182 for his 17th fight and 180lbs for his 20th fight.

[Ivich]

Fury is very talented. He is also old school in that he was trained up as a youngster to get all the right habits...the things that need to be scrubbed, like when Louis telegraphed his right and Shmelling was able to beat him.

If we are talking Fury against Marciano I think Fury could win that fight.

Louis never telegraphed his right .His right cross was one of the most technically perfect punches the ring has ever seen,text book.

Louis' flaw was not returning his left it to the guard position after jabbing ,Schmeling spotted this watching films of Joe and Jack Johnson noted it too.

[Ivich]

Like Billy said, Fury has some boxing knowledge, he is comfortable in the ring like part of his own house. That does not mean he is not a scrub--he certainly is an oaf and a scrub, not to even mention his churlmanship.

Along with his great size he is kinda tricky with his little slaps, and can take a hella shot as well. Mouth-wise, he is disgusting and semi-entertaining at the same time.

Bottom line: He punches like a little girl. No one wants a heavyweight champ who punches with sissy force. He does not have the manpower, a word soon to be outlawed in creepy California.

Fury punches harder than people think!

[Ivich]

Whitaker-sized Fitzsimmons beat Corbett who was their size and as an old man gave Prime Tunney hell in sparring.

Total bollocks.

[Ivich]

Infograph detailing the measurements of Rocky and Old Joe

All correct except Louis' height which was 6 feet one and a half inches.

[billeau2]

Louis never telegraphed his right .His right cross was one of the most technically perfect punches the ring has ever seen,text book.

Louis' flaw was not returning his left it to the guard position after jabbing ,Schmeling spotted this watching films of Joe and Jack Johnson noted it too.

Actually in order to time the jab Schmelling had to have some indication of the right...Hence, it had to be telegraphed in some fashion. Schmelling was not concerned about being hit with the jab... So he had to have some indication of when Louis was going to throw the right to avoid being hit with it.

It doesn't take a tremendous amount of film to see a lazy jab to return fire upon and it would not take a major adjustment for louis to pull the jab back... Schmelling had to have a way to avoid the right cross... That was what he managed and yes Louis was incredible with his form and execution BUT we all give subtle indications, if studied long enough....

[Nash out]

Fury punches harder than people think!

Oldlefhook has an agenda against Fury, So it's no use talking any sense to him about the Furious one. Nash out.

[billeau2]

Oldlefhook has an agenda against Fury, So it's no use talking any sense to him about the Furious one. Nash out.

Yes... Its a known fact that Lefty does not like men with two a r s e s. It might well stem from some traumatic event?

[Anthony342]

They'd do just f****n great. They had toughness and stamina, so they'd compete with just about any heavy from any era.

[QueensburyRules]

They'd do just f****n great. They had toughness and stamina, so they'd compete with just about any heavy from any era.

- - Andre the Giant would grab each in his hand to throw out of the ring one on top the other, and that be that.