How would Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano fare against modern Heavies?

[JAB5239]

I can do it i will u forget I use alot of detail that most dont so I'll have to give u the reasons to of said fighters

Thats great! Im looking forward to it.

[billeau2]

Here is the breakdown I gave to shoulder couple days ago i was looking for it took a min cause im on phone so it deletes my history

Bill he moves good he punches while moving forward his tech is good but this isn't sloopy or is his tech bad cause im talking looking back at his era only
he was fast and good with combos from angles
at times when he wanted to be patient he could be and counter good

Jersey the best mover of the whole era flashy could pick you apart from range
great head movement
Was able to confuse his victims cause of the flashy head movement
great counter puncher when he wanted to show off combined with his combos with speed

klit doesn't move flashy like jers moves real slow compared to both but has a big reach
isn't as active as those 2 seems like that would be a flaw yea that can be seen as that but looking at it this way made him more dangerous

His low activeness allowed him to read good
he was a picker i would compare his patience that of a young Ali but even more patient cause wlad was slower he needed to be more patient cause his speed was slow but great aiming which is hard to be at that type of speed

often at times waited for his person to punch then intercepted their punches
able to keep a person at range with his hard jabs
defense agian not as active as jers and bill on the move but kept 1 arm up while punching with the other smoothly

both jers and still being active more then wlad their punch tech still wasnt as smooth and both most the time were more wild compared

Is any of this wrong cause its all from visual and its nonebias like you see

Your an idiot. You call this some sort of technical analysis? REALLY? An picker? what the fck is that? You wouldn't know how to technically analyze a fighter if your scrawney neck depended on it not to be rung!

[billeau2]

Thats great! Im looking forward to it.

Oh I doubt you are my friend... I doubt you are... hell come out with somethng like: Fighter A is a picker, fighter b is a sloppy guy... God help us... I would prefer they just didn't try sometimes.

[QueensburyRules]

Thats great! Im looking forward to it.

- - A juicy gemstone tossed before swine is it again?

[JAB5239]

- - A juicy gemstone tossed before swine is it again?

What's Marcellus Wallace look like?

[JAB5239]

Oh I doubt you are my friend... I doubt you are... hell come out with somethng like: Fighter A is a picker, fighter b is a sloppy guy... God help us... I would prefer they just didn't try sometimes.

Im sure he'll post it soon. I may not agree with all of it, but i always find lists interesting as there is no true way to say who's righy or wrong.

[QueensburyRules]

What's Marcellus Wallace look like?

- - Marcellus Wilder wannabee thug.

[JAB5239]

- - Marcellus Wilder wannabee thug.

What aint no country i ever heard of!!!

[Marchegiano]

Your an idiot. You call this some sort of technical analysis? REALLY? An picker? what the fck is that? You wouldn't know how to technically analyze a fighter if your scrawney neck depended on it not to be rung!

Been trying to tell the guy to get off his own opinion but I don't think he really understands what I'm telling him. To him that post lacked bias. He called Jersey Joe flashy, but that's not merely his opinion because watch the visuals......he's not understanding what we expect to see for an analysis.

moneytheman


bill isn't even saying you're wrong or right, he's telling you the same thing I did; you're failing your own opinions by the way you present them.


I took think Joe Walcott was flashy and had great movement, but that's not an analysis it's an opinion. In my opinion Joe Walcott had the biggest bag of tricks the sport has ever seen. I do not disagree with what you're trying to get across about him, but the idea you've provided an analysis of anyone is just, well, wrong. You've not. You've shared your opinions and that's about it.

The Sucka Punch was one of the greatest tricks ever done in the ring but if you wanted a technical analysis of it I'd tell you he dipped his shoulders back and forth to get you watching his shoulders and take attention off his feet. Once he had that hook baited he'd keep his feet at orthodox and shoulders at southpaw. Leading with his right, throwing right hand jabs, to convince his opponent he's switched stances but he hasn't, he's pre-loaded his left. His waisted is twisted. Once he has you, he drops you with that pre-loaded left. Gives him the speed of a no-load punch with the power of a fully loaded punch.

No opinion after I say I'd tell you, just an explanation of a technique.

Again, not trying to change your opinions, just your presentation. I think you'd find more who agree with you more often if you spoke more to the boxing and less to your own opinion of the boxing. I get you're struggling to separate them but you should try.

[billeau2]

Im sure he'll post it soon. I may not agree with all of it, but i always find lists interesting as there is no true way to say who's righy or wrong.

This is true.