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  • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

    They are in the picture and cruiser weighs don't spar with heavyweights today in general. Louis and Marciano had less footwork the heavies like Lewis and Vital K in general and my point in the jab is significant. Both guys had trouble in their day with the punch and would have serious problems with their much longer and harder jabs, not to mention their right hands, which are harder. Take it from me, or ask the fighters or people in boxing. They would be up against it, only have a puncher's chance. Lewis and Vitali K are unlike any old timer. They we naturally athletic, faster handed, skilled boxers in caparison to Willard, Buddy Bear, Primo Carnera, and Abe Simon. Just admit that to yourself and you will feel better or deny it, and you well to put it kindly don't know boxing. I'm not saying you don't boxing. Louis and Marciano would have a tougher time getting into range with the slow feet and might not get there without eating serious leather. How much could they take? They didn't get hit that often form the skills big men who didn't earn distinction as amateurs. They pretty much started raw. On the chance they get close, a clinch form a bigger stronger man would most nullify them. It may suck form your point of view but sorry, that the way the game is.

    It doesn't mean that Joe and Rocky were not great in there era, they were. Neither Joe nor Rocky is comparable to Usyk. The 6'3" 78" reach man is about 230 pounds, a southpaw, and a very good mover, for a heavyweight. The skills are better in the lower weights if boxing in general. You don't see welterweights with Heavyweights these days.
    All those dudes including joe would be destroyed these crazy idiots know that its easy to see

    They stopped using those trash styles years ago to save the health of fighters cause they would be out to long injured or die trying to use that crap with a way more advanced fighter

    The trainers seen those dempsey/louis era was trash which was why they didnt teach it that shows it there they seen nobody fighting like that in dempsey era or louis would even make pro so all the people here saying they would do good are all crazy trolls
    Last edited by Ascended; 08-21-2022, 05:55 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
      They'd do well. Hence the term all-time great.
      Well at getting koed yea your right atg has nothing to do with being skilled your slow
      Last edited by Ascended; 08-21-2022, 05:56 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Porky Pig View Post

        It is how each individual fighter matches up, isn't it? The older boxers who trained down to svelte weight might confuse the big guys with their speed, the way Usyk did to Joshua.
        No cause usky is way more skilled then the whole joe and dempsey era you slow person

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        • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
          Fella you cant educate me on boxing.
          You cant educate me on logical debate.
          I totally overestimated your mental capacity and wasted much too much time on you. You're just a fan boy, and as such not to be taken seriously
          Wrong he is a dumbboy/crazy troll nobody really sees how anybody in the dempsey era/louis would make it even in 70s

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          • Originally posted by Bundana View Post

            Serious question: Is there even one person here of sound mind, who honestly think the most likely scenario is Rocky getting inside, where he breaks down Lewis with body punches? I mean... really??


            Yea but thoughts mean nothing its nobody rock fought who was as skilled as people len fought on vid

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            • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
              You're a thicko aren't you. I was referring to this statement.

              "if Lewis fights Louis, well there's plenty of Footage of Louis completely dismantling men as big as Lewis and Vitali."

              Louis never faced a class big guy like them .He fought slow moving hulks like Buddy Baer,Carnera ,and Simon, and Buddy dropped him. The best opposition he beat were probably,Walcott, close 1st fight , Conn168lbs Louis behind on points going into the final round ,Max Baer froze on the night, and Schmeling ,who ko'd Joe in their 1st fight. All would be long odds to even have a chance with Lennox.
              Holyfield , Vitali ,and Tyson would give Louis a hard nights work don't worry about that!


              Now jog on you fool!
              Crazy followers always use that ****** quote how Louis beat big trash dudes as if that means anything anybody can do that what it has to do with fighting a way more advanced fighter is beyond me

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              • - - crazy idiot exlax overdose warning...

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                • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

                  Crazy followers always use that ****** quote how Louis beat big trash dudes as if that means anything anybody can do that what it has to do with fighting a way more advanced fighter is beyond me
                  Well you can always counter it with there 40+ footage of lewis dismantling undersized heavyweights, but unfortunately they wont understand and call you a casual or something.
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                  • Originally posted by YGriffith View Post

                    Well you can always counter it with there 40+ footage of lewis dismantling undersized heavyweights, but unfortunately they wont understand and call you a casual or something.
                    Iennox first 2 matches was with people more advanced then the whole era of Louis and words dont matter i have asked these crazy idiots since last year to prove me wrong with video so it goes back to what I said he fought trash big dudes

                    Why not just say he didn't fight anybody as skilled as the lennox era well cause they want somebody to talk to I dont my words are just to spread the truth

                    Why we don't have more people like you here is odd to me

                    And casuals repeat ****** quotes like these idiots so that doesn't work with me never has with any of these cult members
                    Last edited by Ascended; 08-21-2022, 07:45 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

                      Iennox first 2 matches was with people more advanced then the whole era of Louis and words dont matter i have asked these crazy idiots since last year to prove me wrong with video so it goes back to what I said he fought trash big dudes

                      Why not just say he didn't fight anybody as skilled as the lennox era well cause they want somebody to talk to I dont my words are just to spread the truth

                      Why we don't have more people like you here is odd to me

                      And casuals repeat ****** quotes like these idiots so that doesn't work with me never has with any of these cult members
                      You know what you are talking about. That is what I mean about knowledgeable on boxing. You are giving me fresh ideas, young man. I just asaume you are young because pack leaders usually are. By all means do not stop writing. I am very responsive to sound logic and thinkink such as you. Who do you think is the bsst heavyweight ever? Asking for a friend. Thank you.
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