Joe Louis vs Ali, Liston, Frazier, and Foreman?

[Willie Pep 229]

[EDIT] To be clear . . . The naked girlfriend in the hotel lobby was screaming obscenities about Camacho. He was up in his room refusing to open the door.

[DooGee#33]

Yea but I would probably trade my 70 years for his 40.

The stories, the stories. Naked girfriends in the hotel lobby; falling through drop-ceilings trying to steal back a computer; making cops fall down when they chase him; pullled over for driving 35 mph on I75 because he was "'busy" with the girl on his lap . . . Oh! Got shot in the face. The ******** face. Damn.

P.S. Ran away from custom agents at Miami Airport. They found a small amount of ******* in his luggage. They had his luggage, his passport, and just in case they didn't recognize him, he was wearing a T-Shirt that read "Macho Man."

So what's he do . . . he shoves the custom agent and runs out to the streets of Miami.

Where the hell did he think he was going?

It reminds me of the Tracy character from 30 Rock, jumping off the yacht when the coast guard appears, and just starts swimming.

So wonderfully ******; something about 'growing up on the street' makes fight-flight just take over common sense.

P.S.S. On the serious side I think this over-energized fight-flight is one of the reasons boxers end up hitting their woman too often. Like a ******** twitch.

Yea kidding aside Hector was one of the great personalities to come along. He was 100% street and never tried to be phony.
I liked whem he was about to face DelaHoya and they ask him about Mike Tyson's crazy behavior. I won't repeat what he said but it was as honest as it gets.

[DooGee#33]

[EDIT] To be clear . . . The naked girlfriend in the hotel lobby was screaming obscenities about Camacho. He was up in his room refusing to open the door.

Don't forget the time Hector got pulled over on the freeway in his Ferrari doing 35mph. The Cops walked up to see a female sitting on top of Camacho while driving

[Ascended]

One of Joe's best wins yet no one made midcard in 70s-90s fighting like this guy max but he beats the guys in the topic? bunch of crazy idiots these guys look like novices

[Dr. Z]

Many experts still rank Joe Louis as the greatest Heavyweight of all time, so how would Joe Louis in his prime have done against Ali, Liston, Frazier, and Foreman?

I pick Foreman over Louis. 75/25

Liston's weaponry, range and skills are too much. 70/30

Ali to too big, and too much or a mover for Louis 80/20

These men all have good boxing chins, reach and accuracy.


I think Louis would however defeat Frazier. 65/35 Frazier is the smallest man of the four, has the weakest chin of the four, and can only fight one way ..up close with one hand. That plays into Louis style. He would not have to of catch up to Frazier.

[Ascended]

I pick Foreman over Louis. 75/25

Liston's weaponry, range and skills are too much. 70/30

Ali to too big, and too much or a mover for Louis 80/20

These men all have good boxing chins, reach and accuracy.


I think Louis would however defeat Frazier. 65/35 Frazier is the smallest man of the four, has the weakest chin of the four, and can only fight one way ..up close with one hand. That plays into Louis style. He would not have to of catch up to Frazier.

anybody as advanced as this guy joe fought?
Or himself i thought joe style would play into the og Joe's favor see how you shouldn't say idiotic stuff without comparing?

it's not anybody Louis fought as advanced as even this joe which this was his 3rd Match by the way

And ali already beat a way more advanced louis name was bill

Son and foreman would destroy him 1st round i can post their matches to with bums who were way more advanced even from their 3rd matches

[Ascended]

I pick Foreman over Louis. 75/25

Liston's weaponry, range and skills are too much. 70/30

Ali to too big, and too much or a mover for Louis 80/20

These men all have good boxing chins, reach and accuracy.


I think Louis would however defeat Frazier. 65/35 Frazier is the smallest man of the four, has the weakest chin of the four, and can only fight one way ..up close with one hand. That plays into Louis's style. He would not have to of catch up to Frazier.

Look at this guy a brawler like frazier but looks like a novice wonder why he beat joe and always would yet this guy rock wasn't even close to as advanced as the 2nd joe and came forward nonstop you're a crazy idiot exposed yourself

these guys look horrible like novices

would you like me to post galento a guy who dropped joe easy who also was a novice compared to that 3rd match version of Frazier? Idiot

[DooGee#33]

Look at this guy a brawler like frazier but looks like a novice wonder why he beat joe and always would yet this guy rock wasn't even close to as advanced as the 2nd joe and came forward nonstop you're a crazy idiot exposed yourself

these guys look horrible like novices

would you like me to post galento a guy who dropped joe easy who also was a novice compared to that 3rd match version of Frazier? Idiot

This surprises me. You are the first boxing fan to ever look at films of Rocky Marciano and give him a failing grade on the eye test.

Probably not the last. Most of us learn.

[Ascended]

This surprises me. You are the first boxing fan to ever look at films of Rocky Marciano and give him a failing grade on the eye test.

Probably not the last. Most of us learn.

No I'm not many sane people see how novice like his era was compared to 70s-90s

[JAB5239]

No I'm not many sane people see how novice like his era was compared to 70s-90s

Why don't you post some links of some notable boxing historians who feel this way?