Rocky Marciano: Read this before smeone makes you look ****** with the facts!

[butterfly1964]

Liston was a better heavyweight than Charles and Walcott, hands down. There is no question about it in my opinion. I have Liston at number 8, and Walcott and Charles at 15 and 16 respectively. Charles was a brilliant light-heavyweight, but his achievements there don't count for **** at heavyweight. Otherwise Bob Foster is one of the best heavyweights.

Rocco1252 - Please tell me you don't rank these two higher than Liston? Even Patterson IMHO deserves to be higher. I rank him 14th.

He's only saying that cause they fought marciano. Sometimes he makes an ass out of himself with the posts he makes.

[rocco1252]

He's only saying that cause they fought marciano. Sometimes he makes an ass out of himself with the posts he makes.

bro you make an ass out of yourself with every post you make, so I wouldnt be talking. It's simple I like Marciano more than you do, you love Ali I like Ali see theres the difference of course your going to favor Ali's opponents because they were in his era and thats who he fought. You put Tyson in your top 5 that alone says enough right there about your judgement so I'm gonna leave you and your pathetic opinions alone because frankly it's a waste of time talking to you.

[butterfly1964]

bro you make an ass out of yourself with every post you make, so I wouldnt be talking. It's simple I like Marciano more than you do, you love Ali I like Ali see theres the difference of course your going to favor Ali's opponents because they were in his era and thats who he fought. You put Tyson in your top 5 that alone says enough right there about your judgement so I'm gonna leave you and your pathetic opinions alone because frankly it's a waste of time talking to you.

Let me ask you again, do you think that Ezzard Charles and Jeersey Joe Walcott are better then Sonny Liston?

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Let me ask you again, do you think that Ezzard Charles and Jeersey Joe Walcott are better then Sonny Liston?

Well I don't consider Nikolay Valuev better then Rocky Marciano.

[Hard Boiled HK]

43 KNOCK OUTS in 49 fights!
88% Knockout ratio

Didnt fight anyone special? Rocky Marciano has one of the most impressive resumes in any divisions history.

-Archie Moore -------------- Recognized as top 5
-"Jersey" Joe Walcott twice - One of the top 10
-Joe Louis ------------------ Recognized as best boxer in history
-Phil Muscato
-Freddie Beshore
-Harry "Kid" Matthews
-Ezzard Charles (Twice)
-Roland LaStanza (Twice) --- One of the top five chins in history

Its not just that he fought legends, he beat them all, mostly by KO.

Rocky Marciano has the highest percentage of KOs than any other Heavyweight boxer in history at 88%. We already came to a conclusion that its more impressive than George Foremans record of his fist 49 fights as Rocky Marciano fought 2X's as many legends and even more iron chins.





Rocky Marciano had his own defensive style of boxing, it was sloppy looking, but incredibly successful. It was much harder to land any punch on Marciano as he would duck more throw his body back and jump around than what it would seem. Check out his moves here.

The Greatest Heavyweight Champion EVER!
My rating: 5 out of 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZr3wYOFQA
Comments: Rocky Marciano was an Italian-American boxer who is the greatest Heavyweight champion to ever box, he is the only heavyweight champion to have retire UDEFEATED after FOUR YEARS of holding the title. He fought the best and he beat the best. A huge achievement that noone else has equaled. Heres a famous clip of his knockout of Joe Louis, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofpq9ZVBZ98

Still dont believe me? Fine dont take my word, take the word of the Legends that lost to him.





asked where Marciano had improved most between the first and second fights:


Others




Ali said he was surprised at how hard it was to land a hit on Marciano when they had the exhibition, the computer match.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/A...//Rocky13.html


Arguement that Marciano only beat people past their prime.

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/A...//Rocky13.html

Seems to me these facts speak louder than anything else. Marcianos age difference is actually lower than all of the other legends when they won their titles.

Their was a ten year age difference between Moore and Marciano, significant but not nearly as bad as some of the above, and they are more well known that Marciano.

Check this out, Floyd Patterson was 21 years younger than Archie Moore and Archie KOed him by the fifth round. This happened after Marciano KOed Archie Moore.

http://www.fighttoys.com/Moore%20record.htm

And it took Tyson 12 rounds, in his prime, to win a fight with James Smith by desicion. Tyson was 14 years younger than James Smith

http://www.fighttoys.com/Tyson%20record.htm
If you think winning a desicion over James Smith, who the hell is that, with a 14 year age difference is more impressive than KOing a man 10 years older than you that has gone down in history as one of the finest men in boxing you are the most biased person on these boards.


in 1969 Marciano had an exhibition match when at 46 years old with a much younger Muhammad Ali who had was already established himself as the greatest. The 46 year old Marciano beat Ali. You can argue the computer was wrong, we all know computers are unreliable.

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/A...//alirock.html


Punching power


How could a 5'10 185lb man be so powerful? He was simply the most conditioned fighter to ever enter the ring. Noone will argue with you on that one. He was 185lbs but more powerful than most 200+lb punchers.

You have the facts regarding the computer fight with Muhammad Ali a little biased. In it, they took the data of a prime Rocky vs. a prime Ali. It was not a 46 year old Rocky that they took data from. They only filmed it when he was 46 years old. As a matter of fact, if you look some more into it, there were two versions of that fight. Obviously, in the USA version, Ali lost, and this was what the public wanted anyway. However, in the European version, Ali had won. I read somewhere that given the data fed into the computer, Ali was really the true winner.

[butterfly1964]

Well I don't consider Nikolay Valuev better then Rocky Marciano.

[hellfire508]

You have the facts regarding the computer fight with Muhammad Ali a little biased. In it, they took the data of a prime Rocky vs. a prime Ali. It was not a 46 year old Rocky that they took data from. They only filmed it when he was 46 years old. As a matter of fact, if you look some more into it, there were two versions of that fight. Obviously, in the USA version, Ali lost, and this was what the public wanted anyway. However, in the European version, Ali had won. I read somewhere that given the data fed into the computer, Ali was really the true winner.

It's absolutely hilarious that people take the computer fight seriously. Not only were there multiple endings, but a computer cannot determine a fight! Geez. There is a simulator out now that matches all the great fighters up... why don't we stop arguing mythical matchups and just use that!

Its a load of ****. Marciano fans use it likes it a FACT that a prime Rock beats Ali, because this "old" Marciano did. Computers never lie guys!

Get a clue.

[hellfire508]

LOL. After reading the first post, I look at the title of this thread and laugh. They kind of embarassed themselves.

[Hard Boiled HK]

A lot of people were happy and satisfied when the USA version of Ali vs. Marciano computer fight results were released. Marciano was there "Great White Hope" since there wasn't one that could defeat Ali during Ali's era. I suppose we all have our favorites, and will forever stand by them.

[Hous]

It's absolutely hilarious that people take the computer fight seriously. Not only were there multiple endings, but a computer cannot determine a fight! Geez. There is a simulator out now that matches all the great fighters up... why don't we stop arguing mythical matchups and just use that!

Its a load of ****. Marciano fans use it likes it a FACT that a prime Rock beats Ali, because this "old" Marciano did. Computers never lie guys!

Get a clue.

If you read about the fight the rules were punches to the face were to be pulled but punches to the stomache were to be used at 100%. Who do you think benefitted from that? Not Marciano!!!

Gues what Marciano landed a shot right in Ali stomache and he was floored, he got up and demanded more money or he wouldn't continue to fight with Marciano. He got the money and the fight went on. Marciano offered to go at a full 12 round proffessional boxing match but that never materialized.

Keep in mind Marciano was a balding man at the time, he was by no means even close to his prime when he meet the much younger Ali.

Ali later said he became closer to Marciano than he had any other white boxer.

Noone says the fight was a done deal that Marciano would have beat Ali if they ever meet.