Rocky Marciano: Read this before smeone makes you look ****** with the facts!

[hellfire508]

Rocky Marciano is the greatest of all time and there is no doubt about that. Why in the world do people try and argue that? It baffles me. He never lost a fight in his career and was the only heavyweight champ in history to retire undefeated. He beat the "unbeatable" Joe Louis by KO. Louis was knocked down twice in the 8th. Marciano dropped Louis for an 8-count with a left hook, and then sent him through the ropes for the knockout. He KO'd Archie Moore; he KO'd Ezzard Charles; he KO'd Jersey Joe Walcott twice, the second time in the first round; He TKO'd Roland LaStarza -- He didn't just beat the best, he knocked them out. What more do you want???

Muhammad Ali beat the "invincible" Sonny Liston twice. He knocked the "invincible" George Foreman at his peak, out in 8 rounds, he beat Joe Frazier twice, Ken Norton twice, Jerry Quarry twice, Bonavena, Williams, Folley, Terrell, Cooper, Jones, Bugner, Ellis, Chuvalo, Lyle, Shavers... the list goes on! Anything else?

[sleazyfellow]

Let me guess, you're white, right?

white/black or brown, when u gonna realize marciano had fist of concrete, not stone, he had the ability to ko anyone at any stage in his entire life....u think tarver punches hurder? naw i dont think so, so marciano>everyone else, he kos anybody b4 or AFTER who ever laced up gloves, get that? put that in alis pipe n light it up for him, cause he might as well not boxed at all, coming after marciano, patterson shoulda just kept running the streets cause theres no way hed be better, tyson? he shoulda just kept running with the jollystompers cause marciano woulda koed him metaphorically if he was still fighting! yeah, marciano number 1, i dont care what everyone or boxing ppl have to say, he ran far, punched even farther!

i bet u feel ****** after these facts!

[butterfly1964]

white/black or brown, when u gonna realize marciano had fist of concrete, not stone, he had the ability to ko anyone at any stage in his entire life....u think tarver punches hurder? naw i dont think so, so marciano>everyone else, he kos anybody b4 or AFTER who ever laced up gloves, get that? put that in alis pipe n light it up for him, cause he might as well not boxed at all, coming after marciano, patterson shoulda just kept running the streets cause theres no way hed be better, tyson? he shoulda just kept running with the jollystompers cause marciano woulda koed him metaphorically if he was still fighting! yeah, marciano number 1, i dont care what everyone or boxing ppl have to say, he ran far, punched even farther!

i bet u feel ****** after these facts!

Why do you think marciano retired in the first place, so he wouldn't have to fight Liston.

[hellfire508]

white/black or brown, when u gonna realize marciano had fist of concrete, not stone, he had the ability to ko anyone at any stage in his entire life....u think tarver punches hurder? naw i dont think so, so marciano>everyone else, he kos anybody b4 or AFTER who ever laced up gloves, get that? put that in alis pipe n light it up for him, cause he might as well not boxed at all, coming after marciano, patterson shoulda just kept running the streets cause theres no way hed be better, tyson? he shoulda just kept running with the jollystompers cause marciano woulda koed him metaphorically if he was still fighting! yeah, marciano number 1, i dont care what everyone or boxing ppl have to say, he ran far, punched even farther!

i bet u feel ****** after these facts!

Oh god, have you been taking ignorance pills?

Just ignore him butterfly.

[Brockton Lip]

Why do you think marciano retired in the first place

Because he hurt his back and didn't enjoy fighting as much as he previously had.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Why do you think marciano retired in the first place, so he wouldn't have to fight Liston.

thats the ******est thing I've ever heard you say butterfly-
when Marciano retired Liston was 13-1, I'm not sure his ranking at the time but surely not top 20. Liston wouldnt' even have a shot at the title for at least 4 more years, and it wasn't until 6 years later that he got the title.
Rocky Marciano never ran from a fight, he even said himself he never knew fear in the ring, does that mean he thought he was invincible, no, he knew he wasn't invincible but he had to much heart and pride to back out of a fight.
He even wanted to come out of retirement to fight Liston.
Liston's image is so distorted, 3 reasons Rocky Marciano retired-

1)Rocky Marciano at the time of his retirement was suffering from a back injury and wasn't sure if he could be at 100% for any upcoming fights, and if he's not at 100% then he didn't want to go in.

2)Manager troubles- when Rocky Marciano first signed with his manager Rocky was very nieve. When Rocky was young he considered 200 dollars to be alot (as it was during the depression) and for a boy only making maybe a few dollars for another job he didn't mind Weill getting almost 60% (or something like that.) What Marciano actually intended to do was to retire and make a comeback because the Contract ended when Marciano retired supposedly.

3)He had lost his drive for boxing. Marciano didn't want to do it anymore, he was getting older, and he knew that he only had a handful of good fights left, he feared that he'd end up like boxers before him who stayed past there prime. He also said "When I first started out I used to come into the gym and embrace the smell, but now I don't like the smell when I come into the gym" (or something along those lines), basically saying he lost his drive.

Marciano retired from boxing on 28 April 1956. He had lost his drive, had saved much of the $2 million earned from fights and personal appearances, and did not trust Al Weill, whose contract called for Weill to receive one-half of Marciano's earnings both in and out of the ring. Marciano had long felt that Weill was cheating him. He had also heard that Weill had scalped tickets worth thousands of dollars, without involving Marciano, and that Weill had skimmed $10,000 from the promotional costs of Marciano's title defense against Tom ****rell on 16 May 1955.

http://myhero.com/myhero/hero.asp?hero=rockymarciano

Rocky Marciano was able to retire, he had saved up enough money to retire because he didn't want to end up broke like some of his idles before him (Joe Louis,Sugar Ray Robinson, etc). Also he didn't want somebody the priviledge of having his name on there record- this is what he said (making reference to how Joe Louis let his name on Marciano's record)- this is also one of the reasons he didn't make a comeback.

[Brockton Lip]

Another good Rock post by Marcianofan.

[Hard Boiled HK]

How come a lot of boxers eventually become broke? Don't they make a lot of money when they were champions?

[RockyMarcianofan00]

How come a lot of boxers eventually become broke? Don't they make a lot of money when they were champions?

well with Joe Louis he donated his entire purse from a bout (I don't remember which one, right before he enlisted) to a like an army relief fund. The day after that bout he enlisted in the army. What happened was the following year when he filed his taxes it wasn't listed as a donation it was listed an earning, so because he donated it he didn't pay taxes on it but because it was listed as an earning and no taxes were paid he was fined. Unfortunately he was never told about this error so the interest grew on this debt. He was in debt for the rest of his life.

I suppose the others could have been bad investing or something.

[sleazyfellow]

Oh god, have you been taking ignorance pills?
Just ignore him butterfly.

u dont know what kind of pills i have or havent taken in the past twenty4, read the website this was copied n pasted from! and be quiet b4 sumone makes u ****** with da "facts" naw u know im jp about this, rocky would not of remained undefeated that much longer, swarmers tend to have shorter careers than pure boxers, just look at frazier and ali, frazier was cut short, right after the first superfight, while ali kept it going on, to win the title 3 times, but obviously he went a little too far with it