Ali IS tha man...

[Heckler]

Really butterfly watch more footage, talk to more people and stop making uninformed judgements on fighters.

[butterfly1964]

Uh, Butterfly...Buddy Baer was a little over 6'6" and weighed in the 240-250 lbs range.

and so what does that mean. did you ever hear the saying,"the bigger they are the harder they fall" hahaha!!

[Yogi]

and so what does that mean. did you ever hear the saying,"the bigger they are the harder they fall" hahaha!!

LOL!

Ya' idiot!

Anyways, regarding your "then a big puncher would've crushed him" comment about Louis earlier in the thread, check out this top ten ranking of the hardest p4p punchers in history, which was originally printed in the Apr 1993 issue of Boxing Illustrated;

1. Jimmy Wilde
2. MAX BAER
3. Bob Fitzsimmons
4. George Chaney
5. Charles Ledoux
6. Bob Satterfield
7. Earnie Shavers
8. Joe Louis
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sandy Saddler

Take note of who they rank as #2, Butterfly!

Max Baer also finished #22 all-time in The Ring's 2003 ranking of "The 100 Greatest Punchers of All-time" (not just the hardest, as other factors were taken into consideration), which would mean he was the 7th or 8th greatest puncher in Heavyweight history in The Ring's opinion.

Max Baer was a big puncher, Butterfly, whose power in his right hand was comparable to ANY Heavyweight in history...Louis took Baer's right hand just fine, thank you very much, so that comment of yours is totally without logic & reasoning.

[butterfly1964]

LOL!

Ya' idiot!

Anyways, regarding your "then a big puncher would've crushed him" comment about Louis earlier in the thread, check out this top ten ranking of the hardest p4p punchers in history, which was originally printed in the Apr 1993 issue of Boxing Illustrated;

1. Jimmy Wilde
2. MAX BAER
3. Bob Fitzsimmons
4. George Chaney
5. Charles Ledoux
6. Bob Satterfield
7. Earnie Shavers
8. Joe Louis
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sandy Saddler

Take note of who they rank as #2, Butterfly!

Max Baer also finished #22 all-time in The Ring's 2003 ranking of "The 100 Greatest Punchers of All-time" (not just the hardest, as other factors were taken into consideration), which would mean he was the 7th or 8th greatest puncher in Heavyweight history in The Ring's opinion.

Max Baer was a big puncher, Butterfly, whose power in his right hand was comparable to ANY Heavyweight in history...Louis took Baer's right hand just fine, thank you very much, so that comment of yours is totally without logic & reasoning.

but look who probably made up that list,...white people, so of course their gonna praise whites.

[Yogi]

but look who probably made up that list,...white people, so of course their gonna praise whites.

Huh?

I know who made those lists...Boxing writers/historians, who did nothing but praise who they thought were some of the hardest/greatest punchers in history.

[butterfly1964]

Huh?

I know who made those lists...Boxing writers/historians, who did nothing but praise who they thought were some of the hardest/greatest punchers in history.

and they were white obviously. they put baer above louis for god sakes. they must be partial to white fighters.

[Yogi]

and they were white obviously. they put baer above louis for god sakes. they must be partial to white fighters.

In terms of pure punching power, what is so wrong with putting Baer above Louis?

You make it sound like they're committing a outrageous sin or something, man.

Sure, Louis had the quicker, much better delivery, and much more accurate power punches than did Baer. But I wouldn't neccessarily say that Louis hits with more pure power when each of them lands their best/hardest shots.

Say what you want about Baer's overall boxing talent, but when you watch him fight, I think it's pretty obvious that the guy could outright BOMB with that right hand of his. When he threw it with intent on destruction, he put all of his weight into it with the hopes of sending his opponeny clear out ot the venue. It was wild, yes, but it was also damn powerful and could do major ****ing damage if it landed...Ask Frankie Campbell or Ernie Schaaf about that whenever you make it up to the heavens and I'm sure they'd tell you.

[butterfly1964]

In terms of pure punching power, what is so wrong with putting Baer above Louis?

You make it sound like they're committing a outrageous sin or something, man.

Sure, Louis had the quicker, much better delivery, and much more accurate power punches than did Baer. But I wouldn't neccessarily say that Louis hits with more pure power when each of them lands their best/hardest shots.

Say what you want about Baer's overall boxing talent, but when you watch him fight, I think it's pretty obvious that the guy could outright BOMB with that right hand of his. When he threw it with intent on destruction, he put all of his weight into it with the hopes of sending his opponeny clear out ot the venue. It was wild, yes, but it was also damn powerful and could do major ****ing damage if it landed...Ask Frankie Campbell or Ernie Schaaf about that whenever you make it up to the heavens and I'm sure they'd tell you.

all i'm saying is that baer couldn't go toe to toe with people like foreman, frazier, liston, ali, chuvalo, norton, or even dempsey or marciano.

[Dempsey1238]

Fraizer and Foreman never killed a few people in the ring either.

Will Schaaf was almost beating to death, than died in his next match, as because of Baer, was already damage goods. People at the time of the Schaaf Carnea fight thought the ko was a fix. Carnera hit him with a light jab, and Schaaf died.

[butterfly1964]

Fraizer and Foreman never killed a few people in the ring either.

Will Schaaf was almost beating to death, than died in his next match, as because of Baer, was already damage goods. People at the time of the Schaaf Carnea fight thought the ko was a fix. Carnera hit him with a light jab, and Schaaf died.

if will schaff fought frazier or foreman, he would have died alot quicker.