Ali IS tha man...

[butterfly1964]

Oh really?

And what round did Conn allegedly floor Louis in, Butterfly?

I'm only asking because when I watch that fight, I cannot find one occasion where "Conn floored Louis" in it.

they fought twice didn't they?

[Dempsey1238]

Louis and Conn fought 2 times.

Conn NEVER floor Louis in either bout.

I seen both fights.

[butterfly1964]

Louis and Conn fought 2 times.

Conn NEVER floor Louis in either bout.

I seen both fights.

well, i remember some little guy flooring louis with one punch.

[Dempsey1238]

The guys that floor Louis.

Schmeling 2 times. Wins by knockout first match.
Braddock 1 time, Louis wins title.
Galento drop Louis one time.
Buddy Baer, drops Louis once.
Walcott Drops Louis 3 times in 2 fights.
Marciano drops Louis 2 times.

I have SEEN ALL these knockdowns lol. From either full fights, or highlights.

The only times Louis was Hurt was when Marciano drop him and finshing him, and the Schmeling bout.

The others had there FLASH knockdowns over Louis, in which Louis would rise and crush em, outside of Walcott in the first fight.

Louis was only down ten times, and 1 onces for a ten count(Schmling).

The ref did not bother to count with Marciano.

[butterfly1964]

The guys that floor Louis.

Schmeling 2 times. Wins by knockout first match.
Braddock 1 time, Louis wins title.
Galento drop Louis one time.
Buddy Baer, drops Louis once.
Walcott Drops Louis 3 times in 2 fights.
Marciano drops Louis 2 times.

I have SEEN ALL these knockdowns lol. From either full fights, or highlights.

The only times Louis was Hurt was when Marciano drop him and finshing him, and the Schmeling bout.

The others had there FLASH knockdowns over Louis, in which Louis would rise and crush em, outside of Walcott in the first fight.

Louis was only down ten times, and 1 onces for a ten count(Schmling).

The ref did not bother to count with Marciano.

so if all those fighters could drop louis, then a big puncher would have crushed him!

[Dempsey1238]

most of em were big punchers like Schmling, Baer, and Walcott,

And 2 Ton Toney could hit hard 2.

[butterfly1964]

most of em were big punchers like Schmling, Baer, and Walcott,

And 2 Ton Toney could hit hard 2.

walcott is not by any means a big puncher, maybe good power for his size but that's it. schmeling does not punch harder than frazier, foreman, liston, tyson, lewis, bowe, norton, williams, quarry, chuvalo, shavers, lyle, or even dempsey or marciano; neither does baer.

[Dempsey1238]

your kidding about Baer right? He has a 79 percent ko rate, he is 50-7 with 45 knockouts. That is pretty high.

Walcott was a hot and cold fighter.

And Max Schmling has 56 wins, with 39 by knockout.


Schmling range in the 50 percent range, BUT he was more of a counter puncher. His right hand bomb is right up there with some of the best rights EVER.

[butterfly1964]

your kidding about Baer right? He has a 79 percent ko rate, he is 50-7 with 45 knockouts. That is pretty high.

Walcott was a hot and cold fighter.

And Max Schmling has 56 wins, with 39 by knockout.


Schmling range in the 50 percent range, BUT he was more of a counter puncher. His right hand bomb is right up there with some of the best rights EVER.

yeah, but who did baer fight? small white guys like himself who had weak chins, he didn't fight the same calibur competition that ali did or frazier, foreman, or even liston.

[Yogi]

small white guys like himself

Uh, Butterfly...Buddy Baer was a little over 6'6" and weighed in the 240-250 lbs range.