George Foreman vs Rid**** Bowe (Superheavyweight Final)

[Nash out]

I agree with Nash out that this odd thread, the effort put in by the thread starter notwithstanding, portrays a Rid**** Bowe that simply never existed except in flashes, or light-boarded against inferior (or past prime) opposition. Though each had their flaws, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Klitschko, and Fury are Great champions of the past half century. Bowe was not in their class. IMHO, naturally.

Too many people will not see things for what they actually were, and only want to see the mythical version they have created in their heads to suit their agenda. Those on here who try to belittle the views of the Great Nash, are doing so in bias, and not realising that a high percentage of what Nash puts down, is **** on the money, and whilst, of course, like most things, opinions are individual, but Nash backs up their opinions with strong reasoning.

If Bowe was half as good as many make out, would he not have been able to adjust for his second crack of the whip at Golota? Who was, let's be honest, a **** average fighter. Forget the DQ's, which came from Golota's ******ity. Golota absolutely outclassed Bowe twice. Bowe had his 2-1 won over Holyfield, but the rest of his career is barely worthy of him being called a decent domestic level fighter.

On top of that, when he binned the belt because he knew he'd take an L vs Lewis, it was, without a doubt, the most shameful duck in boxing history. And people also seem to credit Bowe with skills that he did not have. Big and strong, but not a monster one punch KO artist, not a great defence, no real movement or agility. Many ways to beat a man with so many flaws, so when you match him H2H with the greats, it's hard to make a case for him winning many of them. Nash out.

[Ascended]

you can’t recognize georges defence capabilities. Who was hitting him so much outside of Ali? Foreman used the saddler style grappling and riding technique which works amazing if the gloves can be opened. He would constantly disrupt his opponents balance and grab the shoulders - any arm punches that got through were rolled.

ever wonder why Bowe is so Punchy and George is not?

That quote bothers me saying how I dont understand something in boxing when I'm the one here who gives the most detailed breakdowns which are from video not made up that never was shown by the person in the ring

A better way would be to say which would still be wrong is that im underestimating

Agreed on George style facts the thing is bowe was heavier which is a advantage

but looking at the ron match only george easy to hurt from picked hard shots since ron was the only person that george fought who hit hard ron almost made him fall from the 1st from a hard right before the round ended george was all over the place

Bowe never looked like he was ready to fall like george did with ron in the 1st round when bowe was at his best

Which shows bowe was way tougher for hard shots

Bowe is Joe where he stood there and couldn't do nothing

Bowe in a brawl is not good he was way to good at close range at picking shots and pressure

George was easy to read and slow

Now the old George since he fought smarter he has a better chance

who was hitting George i dont look at stuff like that simple you should know that I can name mutiple matches where george missed shots easy and was countered or he just missed shots. Cause of his speed and telegraphing

Its no reason for any of you to pick george he would be way to outmatched in athleticism

[them_apples]

That quote bothers me saying how I dont understand something in boxing when I'm the one here who gives the most detailed breakdowns which are from video not made up that never was shown by the person in the ring

A better way would be to say which would still be wrong is that im underestimating

Agreed on George style facts the thing is bowe was heavier which is a advantage

but looking at the ron match only george easy to hurt from picked hard shots since ron was the only person that george fought who hit hard ron almost made him fall from the 1st from a hard right before the round ended george was all over the place

Bowe never looked like he was ready to fall like george did with ron in the 1st round when bowe was at his best

Which shows bowe was way tougher for hard shots

Bowe is Joe where he stood there and couldn't do nothing

Bowe in a brawl is not good he was way to good at close range at picking shots and pressure

George was easy to read and slow

Now the old George since he fought smarter he has a better chance

who was hitting George i dont look at stuff like that simple you should know that I can name mutiple matches where george missed shots easy and was countered or he just missed shots. Cause of his speed and telegraphing

Its no reason for any of you to pick george he would be way to outmatched in athleticism

Every fight after he lost to Ali was George mosying around with his head in the clouds. the lyle fight just woke up him. george would have plastered Lyle prior to Ali. and Bowe can't Hurt George, Bowes an average puncher at best - maybe slightly above average.

[Willow The Wisp]

Too many people will not see things for what they actually were, and only want to see the mythical version they have created in their heads to suit their agenda. Those on here who try to belittle the views of the Great Nash, are doing so in bias, and not realising that a high percentage of what Nash puts down, is **** on the money, and whilst, of course, like most things, opinions are individual, but Nash backs up their opinions with strong reasoning.

If Bowe was half as good as many make out, would he not have been able to adjust for his second crack of the whip at Golota? Who was, let's be honest, a **** average fighter. Forget the DQ's, which came from Golota's ******ity. Golota absolutely outclassed Bowe twice. Bowe had his 2-1 won over Holyfield, but the rest of his career is barely worthy of him being called a decent domestic level fighter.

On top of that, when he binned the belt because he knew he'd take an L vs Lewis, it was, without a doubt, the most shameful duck in boxing history. And people also seem to credit Bowe with skills that he did not have. Big and strong, but not a monster one punch KO artist, not a great defence, no real movement or agility. Many ways to beat a man with so many flaws, so when you match him H2H with the greats, it's hard to make a case for him winning many of them. Nash out.

Everybody has a unique personality, subject matter depth, thinking style, and writing style with which to convey the latter characteristics. I have not been posting here too long, but I've picked up on who I feel are good contributors here (not necessarily because we reach identical conclusions), those who gather respect for their offerings from other posters, those who troll and/Don't want to take their own postings very seriously and others who seem to land in between these silos somewhere, like you. The 3rd person shtick is fun. Like George Remus. You have landed on my Quality Poster list. As such, watch the mail for your .15 cents and special ID card. Your lighthearted bit seems to attract some critics; some of whom are also found on my top shelf list. Some of whom are unnecessarily combative. Just thought that I'd balance some of that bitterness with a compliment. .....not that I possess any special perch from which to pontificate.

[Ascended]

Every fight after he lost to Ali was George mosying around with his head in the clouds. the lyle fight just woke up him. george would have plastered Lyle prior to Ali. and Bowe can't Hurt George, Bowes an average puncher at best - maybe slightly above average.

that doesn't work with me you said nothing to go over the attributes and athleticism of bowe you didn't even use Anybody as slow or easy to read like george

ron was for a fact the only man who hit hard and who was tough who could take shots and picked good are you saying george had he been in the right mind that fight goes for a domination for george I dont see it

Let's say george had been in his right mind he still fought the same way did he not he pushed and walked forward he threw mutiple punches he would have fought that same way anytime with ron

George would need like I told you his old self from to offset bowes movement he was way more tougher you know that for a fact to I know for taking damage and you know to that george when old was great at picking shots that is the george version we need to put here

We need to put the old george skills and smarter fighter on his young body

[The Old LefHook]

Bowe will not last long. He is way overrated because he gave tiny Holyfield hard times.

[Ascended]

Bowe will not last long. He is way overrated because he gave tiny Holyfield hard times.

Doesn't need to last long since george was easy to hard to hurt with hard shots shown by Ron and no bowe isn't overrated cause of 1 match what a idiotic thing to say he was one of the most skilled inside fighters at hw in history

George is the one overrated being picked to beat people like bowe fury ike and others when he never fought anybody as athletic and skilled as these man the man was slow easy to read lack of defense

[Willow The Wisp]

Doesn't need to last long since george was easy to hard to hurt with hard shots shown by Ron and no bowe isn't overrated cause of 1 match what a idiotic thing to say he was one of the most skilled inside fighters at hw in history

George is the one overrated beong picked to beat people like bowe fury ike and others when he never fought anybody as athletic and skilled as these man the man was slow easy to read lack of defense

Bless you.

[Ascended]

Bless you.

Bless you.

[QueensburyRules]

Everybody has a unique personality, subject matter depth, thinking style, and writing style with which to convey the latter characteristics. I have not been posting here too long, but I've picked up on who I feel are good contributors here (not necessarily because we reach identical conclusions), those who gather respect for their offerings from other posters, those who troll and/Don't want to take their own postings very seriously and others who seem to land in between these silos somewhere, like you. The 3rd person shtick is fun. Like George Remus. You have landed on my Quality Poster list. As such, watch the mail for your .15 cents and special ID card. Your lighthearted bit seems to attract some critics; some of whom are also found on my top shelf list. Some of whom are unnecessarily combative. Just thought that I'd balance some of that bitterness with a compliment. .....not that I possess any special perch from which to pontificate.

- - Could be perched on a special ripe peach of perch, not that I would wish to pontificate on the necessity of understanding that grass is green, sky is blue, and Bowe is glue once Big George unloads the heavy timber.