Lennox Lewis ''Mike Tyson Was A One Dimensional Boxer''

[NChristo]

tyson was created by clever marketing by looking explosive against bums. There are 3 legit names on his resume.

1.lennox lewis
2. holyfield
3.larry holmes

got destroyed by lewis, destroyed by holyfield 2 times, and beat a washed up holmes.

Michael Spinks.

[young_robbed]

Michael Spinks.

who wasn't very good at heavyweight anyway (beating a washed up cooney and past prime Holmes x2 doesn't count.)
spinks was also past his prime and belonged at light heavy anyways. Still a nice win but nothing special

[NChristo]

who wasn't very good at heavyweight anyway (beating a washed up cooney and past prime Holmes x2 doesn't count.)
spinks was also past his prime and belonged at light heavy anyways. Still a nice win but nothing special

What do you mean they don't count ? , they don't make him a great heavy, no, but they was fine wins none the less, you cannot just disregard them, Spinks has a good argument for top 3 Light Heavy ATG and was still skilled at heavy although it obviously wasn't his prime, it is a very good win and a "legit" name on his resume that Forza left out.

[Emon723]

Lewis would never beat the Tyson of '88-'91, from 95-onwards I'll go with Lewis.

[Jim Jeffries]

An awful lot of replies for what was a rather absurd statement.

Does anyone think Lewis would have a snowball's chance against Tyson if he were Mike's size? As it is I would favor a prime Mike, so if he's one dimensional, what does that make Lennox?

[StarshipTrooper]

What do you mean they don't count ? , they don't make him a great heavy, no, but they was fine wins none the less, you cannot just disregard them, Spinks has a good argument for top 3 Light Heavy ATG and was still skilled at heavy although it obviously wasn't his prime, it is a very good win and a "legit" name on his resume that Forza left out.

The problem is there's a double standard: If it was anyone OTHER than Tyson they'd be crucified for even fighting Spinks by the same people who are praising the Spinks fight as Tyson's defining win.

Poet

[Scott9945]

You're looking at Ruiz in hindsight. He was not a "three time champion" in 2000 and had not beaten any contender of note. Look at those last five opponents prior to Holy. Since when does beating Thomas Williams and Mario Cawley make one the top contender? Yes he later proved to be a better heavyweight than Grant but at the time Grant was the bigger name and the bigger fight, and that was why Lewis took it. If Ruiz was known at all it was for being a highlight reel Tua KO. Here are the Ring's rankings for April 2000:

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Evander Holyfield
3. Michael Grant
4. David Tua
5. Mike Tyson
6. Andrew Golota
7. Oleg Maskaev
8. Chris Byrd
9. David Izon
10. Derrick Jefferson

Even your own link only says they "reportedly" wouldn't strip him when you can find a hundred other links saying Lewis would be stripped regardless for fighting Grant.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/USAToday...t&pqatl=google

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ko_lennox.html



After Moorer beat Holyfield, Moorer was asked if he would unify with Lewis. He responded that he was going to fight who he wanted, not who someone else wanted. It turned out he wanted to fight an inactive 45 year old. Are you going to ignore Moorer's own words and actions?



I posted links to Newman's 90-10 offer, which as usual you ignored, and another link saying Lewis would accept a 75-25 offer, which you also ignored. In the end, sick of being jerked around by Bowe and Newman, Lewis took the Tucker fight for more than he was being offered by Bowe. That Lewis constantly sought out tough fights and Bowe missed nearly all the top 90s heavyweights tells me a lot about who was avoiding who. Oddly enough, of all those guys Lewis supposedly ducked, Bowe didn't fight any of them either. Not Tyson, not Moorer, not Foreman, not Holmes, nor Mercer, Ruddock, Morrison or McCall. Why was that?



If you followed boxing as much as you claim, you'd know Dokes was champion in 1983. Bowe fought him in 1993, when Dokes most certainly was not the #2 contender or any factor in the division. Maybe he should have fought John Tate too. Check out who that 10 fight win streak was against... Danny Sutton, Percell Davis, Barry Forbes, Danny Wofford, Tyrone Armstrong, and none other than Jesse Ferguson. What a terror. This article is a more accurate reflection of how the fight was regarded:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...7436/index.htm

And if you want to use triangular logic, I could just as easily mention Golota who beat the snot out of Bowe twice and was KO'd easily by Lewis. Yes I know, Golota stubbed his toe en route to the ring which removes any credit due to Lewis.



Such venom. Which begs the question of what your real problem with Lewis is. It's obvious you aren't just a critic of his ability and career, but you have major personal issues with the man, genuine loathing judging by those last comments. You even contradict yourself and ignore established facts just to stick the boot in. And do you have a particular problem with a "Canadian" calling himself British?

Masterful rebuttal to the Fox News of this forum.

[CarlosG815]

The problem is there's a double standard: If it was anyone OTHER than Tyson they'd be crucified for even fighting Spinks by the same people who are praising the Spinks fight as Tyson's defining win.

Poet

It's the way in which he disposed of Spinks that was so impressive. How many heavyweights could have done to Spinks what Tyson did?

Spinks to me isn't all that impressive of a win. Spinks had no business in there, but the way he took him out effortlessly and brutally is impressive.

[Canes Ghost]

You're looking at Ruiz in hindsight. He was not a "three time champion" in 2000 and had not beaten any contender of note. Look at those last five opponents prior to Holy. Since when does beating Thomas Williams and Mario Cawley make one the top contender? Yes he later proved to be a better heavyweight than Grant but at the time Grant was the bigger name and the bigger fight, and that was why Lewis took it. If Ruiz was known at all it was for being a highlight reel Tua KO. Here are the Ring's rankings for April 2000:

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Evander Holyfield
3. Michael Grant
4. David Tua
5. Mike Tyson
6. Andrew Golota
7. Oleg Maskaev
8. Chris Byrd
9. David Izon
10. Derrick Jefferson

Even your own link only says they "reportedly" wouldn't strip him when you can find a hundred other links saying Lewis would be stripped regardless for fighting Grant.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/USAToday...t&pqatl=google

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ko_lennox.html



After Moorer beat Holyfield, Moorer was asked if he would unify with Lewis. He responded that he was going to fight who he wanted, not who someone else wanted. It turned out he wanted to fight an inactive 45 year old. Are you going to ignore Moorer's own words and actions?



I posted links to Newman's 90-10 offer, which as usual you ignored, and another link saying Lewis would accept a 75-25 offer, which you also ignored. In the end, sick of being jerked around by Bowe and Newman, Lewis took the Tucker fight for more than he was being offered by Bowe. That Lewis constantly sought out tough fights and Bowe missed nearly all the top 90s heavyweights tells me a lot about who was avoiding who. Oddly enough, of all those guys Lewis supposedly ducked, Bowe didn't fight any of them either. Not Tyson, not Moorer, not Foreman, not Holmes, nor Mercer, Ruddock, Morrison or McCall. Why was that?



If you followed boxing as much as you claim, you'd know Dokes was champion in 1983. Bowe fought him in 1993, when Dokes most certainly was not the #2 contender or any factor in the division. Maybe he should have fought John Tate too. Check out who that 10 fight win streak was against... Danny Sutton, Percell Davis, Barry Forbes, Danny Wofford, Tyrone Armstrong, and none other than Jesse Ferguson. What a terror. This article is a more accurate reflection of how the fight was regarded:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...7436/index.htm

And if you want to use triangular logic, I could just as easily mention Golota who beat the snot out of Bowe twice and was KO'd easily by Lewis. Yes I know, Golota stubbed his toe en route to the ring which removes any credit due to Lewis.



Such venom. Which begs the question of what your real problem with Lewis is. It's obvious you aren't just a critic of his ability and career, but you have major personal issues with the man, genuine loathing judging by those last comments. You even contradict yourself and ignore established facts just to stick the boot in. And do you have a particular problem with a "Canadian" calling himself British?

Time and again this guy has been proved wrong, he seriously has some personal issues with Lewis. He's obviously seen a lot of fights, yet it baffles me how someone who seriously calls themselves a fan or historian of the game can come up with so much bull**** in order to discredit a fighter they clearly hate.

[Vadrigar.]

Masterful rebuttal to the Fox News of this forum.

How come??