Lennox Lewis ''Mike Tyson Was A One Dimensional Boxer''

[Kid McCoy]

this response clearly tells me that you are a buffoon.. it is clear that i annoy you and that me telling it how it really was about Lewis irritates you and gets under your skin..you keep claiming that i rate John Ruiz as some kind of world-beater yet you know fine well i have never said anything of the kind, i said Lewis should have fought Ruiz because Ruiz was the No1 contender... but to give your agenda some leverage you twist it around and try to make Ruiz out to be a bum which he most definately was not, Ruiz was good enough to beat Holyfield & Rahman far easier than what Lewis did...

You don't annoy me Sonny. You're good value but I can't take you seriously. You have more excuses than Roy Jones and your posts have more holes than Swiss cheese. Let's face it, you think Pete Rademacher was a deserving title challenger. It's obvious from your posts that Lewis and I greatly bother you though. As I type I see you're now following me in those Tunney threads. You mention me in topics I haven't even posted in and Lewis in topics which have nothing to do with him.

I said Ruiz was #1 contender not on merit but because of ABC politics, which is true. Beating Williams, Feliz, Cawley and Ballard did not make him worthy of being #1 contender.

i said Lewis should have fought Ruiz because Ruiz was the No1 contender... but to give your agenda some leverage you twist it around and try to make Ruiz out to be a bum which he most definately was not, Ruiz was good enough to beat Holyfield & Rahman far easier than what Lewis did... you twist it to make out that Henry Akinwande was a brilliant fighter yet his title fight with Lewis turned out to be ridiculous....

I never made out Akinwande to be "brilliant". You said the Klitschkos ought to have been ranked because they held the WBO belt and that Lewis was avoiding the titlists. Well, Akinwande was a WBO champion. You want it all ways.

you claim Lewis was not stripped of all 3 belts yet he retired 3 days before he was due to be stripped of his last remaining belt, so it is immaterial 2 belts or 3 belts, he was still stripped...

So you agree he retired and wasn't stripped.

you use the term "Old Men" and insinuate that i used that term which is incorrect, only you have used that term to describe Holyfield, Tucker, Spoon & Smith...

You're telling me you never said Holy, Tyson and Tucker were old when they fought Lewis? That's why I can't take you seriously.

Lewis never ever defending the undisputed title is FACT yet you cannot bring yourself to admit it like you cannot supply a link of Moorer saying he did not want to fight Lewis...

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...22#post9744022

You claim Lewis is British yet know he has lived in Canada for 40yrs and his children go to school there, maybe its because if you keep believing him to be British your idolization of him has some kind of legitimacy to it with you also being British...

Lewis lives in Jamaica now. I suspect Lewis calling himself British has something to do with your dislike of him.

Holyfield was Shot when he faced Lewis but you twist it claiming he beat Ruiz yet styles make fights and Ruiz won there next 2 fights... Lewis must have thought Ruiz was too much for him otherwise he would have fought him....You giving Bowe the edge over Lewis in my understanding ment you thought Bowe would beat him.. you know say it did not mean that, so maybe you can tell me what you ment by "Giving Bowe the edge.

So Ruiz beat (and lost to) an even more shot Holyfield than Lewis fought and you're impressed by that? You interpret things to mean whatever you want them to mean. Only in Sonnyboy land is someone saying they give a fighter "an edge" in a fight the same as saying they're sure to win.

yes i believe Tunney beat Greb 4-1 with you never showing me anything to change my mind although you seem to believe you had.. you have never provided any evidence on anything to change my mind about anything to do with the sport of boxing..

Of course not, because by your own admission nothing will change your mind, not even facts. I posted evidence but you ignored it. Anyone can look through that thread and tell me I'm lying. You didn't see it because you blank out anything that challenges your views, newspaper reports, quotes from the commissioner, even Tunney's own words!

i have read many times of how Lennox Lewis ducked fighting Roy Jones in 2001 and will stick to my belief, Lewis said in many tabloid newspapers that he had nothing to prove by fighting a middleweight and turned down a staggering $35 million + PPV i showed you several links which proved that to be the case along

This was your link for Lewis "ducking" Jones.

http://fighthype.com/pages/content7276.html

Murad Muhammad: "Lennox Lewis accepted $25million to fight Roy Jones Jr".

with several links where Michael Moorer said Lewis turned down fights with him... you ignored those links....

Because you never sent them.

i have never like you claim, "Looked a Fool".. my message box and Green K from members on this subject & Greb vs Tunney subject prove that..

I'd like to see a screenshot of that.

the only fool in either subject was you.. with you always wanting the last word but i will reply to this subject with you till i am 100yrs old without you getting the better of me because i enjoy talking Lennox Lewis as i know all about the guy, he is one fighter who i specialize in..

Very true. You know all the arguments off by heart, even if most of them are wrong. I know what you're going to say before you do. All I have to say is "Ruddock" and I know the response will be "damaged goods"! "Tua": "fattest challenger ever". And so on.

All that being said, Barnburner is correct. I don't intend to spend the rest of my life arguing with someone whose major personal issues with this topic prevent any rational debate, even if you do. It's time to part ways. I'll even let you have the last word.

[sonnyboyx2]

You don't annoy me Sonny. You're good value but I can't take you seriously. You have more excuses than Roy Jones and your posts have more holes than Swiss cheese. Let's face it, you think Pete Rademacher was a deserving title challenger. It's obvious from your posts that Lewis and I greatly bother you though. As I type I see you're now following me in those Tunney threads. You mention me in topics I haven't even posted in and Lewis in topics which have nothing to do with him.

I said Ruiz was #1 contender not on merit but because of ABC politics, which is true. Beating Williams, Feliz, Cawley and Ballard did not make him worthy of being #1 contender.



I never made out Akinwande to be "brilliant". You said the Klitschkos ought to have been ranked because they held the WBO belt and that Lewis was avoiding the titlists. Well, Akinwande was a WBO champion. You want it all ways.



So you agree he retired and wasn't stripped.



You're telling me you never said Holy, Tyson and Tucker were old when they fought Lewis? That's why I can't take you seriously.



http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...22#post9744022



Lewis lives in Jamaica now. I suspect Lewis calling himself British has something to do with your dislike of him.



So Ruiz beat (and lost to) an even more shot Holyfield than Lewis fought and you're impressed by that? You interpret things to mean whatever you want them to mean. Only in Sonnyboy land is someone saying they give a fighter "an edge" in a fight the same as saying they're sure to win.



Of course not, because by your own admission nothing will change your mind, not even facts. I posted evidence but you ignored it. Anyone can look through that thread and tell me I'm lying. You didn't see it because you blank out anything that challenges your views, newspaper reports, quotes from the commissioner, even Tunney's own words!



This was your link for Lewis "ducking" Jones.

http://fighthype.com/pages/content7276.html

Murad Muhammad: "Lennox Lewis accepted $25million to fight Roy Jones Jr".



Because you never sent them.



I'd like to see a screenshot of that.



Very true. You know all the arguments off by heart, even if most of them are wrong. I know what you're going to say before you do. All I have to say is "Ruddock" and I know the response will be "damaged goods"! "Tua": "fattest challenger ever". And so on.

All that being said, Barnburner is correct. I don't intend to spend the rest of my life arguing with someone whose major personal issues with this topic prevent any rational debate, even if you do. It's time to part ways. I'll even let you have the last word.

i won't respond to the garbage you have twisted out here because i have been into it and proved my points as correct on every single issue in my previous posts... so i will just outline a few of your points (howlers)...

1/. Mike Tyson was not shot when fighting Lennox
2/. Michael Grant was a great fighter
3/. Henry Akinwande was a great fighter
4/. David Tua was avoided by every top fighter
5/. John Ruiz 3 time champion was unworthy of a title shot
6/. Rid**** Bowe is a compulsive Liar
7/. The referee was corrupt in McCall vs Lewis I
8/. Frans Botha was better than John Ruiz & Chris Byrd
9/. Rid**** Bowe ducked every top heavyweight
10/. Lennox Lewis beat a prime Holyfield in 1999
11/. Tyson was afraid to fight Greg Page
12/. Lewis ditched his belt to take bigger fight with Botha
13/. Eddie Futch predicted Bobick would beat Norton
14/. Witherspoon was never a major factor in the 90s
15/. Bowe was not undisputed when Lewis was a champion too
16/. Lennox tried to represent Britain in the Olympics 1988
17/. Lewis vs Tucker & Jackson was big lucrative fights
18/. Lewis was not stripped of any belts

You are welcome to your opinions and idolization of Lewis in the same way i am entitled to my opinions of him

[carlos slim]

screw all these essays.....prime mike tyson neva turned down a live opponent...you could say holyfield but they were supposed to fight after if he beat douglas...or george foreman but look at his record he wasnt beating any contenders at that time....tyson was next to ali in that fashion..

meanwhile lennox lewis is a hof no doubt but a handpicker..hasim rahman got the **** knocked out of him by maskev....what did botha do to earn a shot??? chris bird was in the top 3 heavyweights 2001-2005 no lewis fight....

[Kid McCoy]

i won't respond to the garbage you have twisted out here because i have been into it and proved my points as correct on every single issue in my previous posts... so i will just outline a few of your points (howlers)...

1/. Mike Tyson was not shot when fighting Lennox
2/. Michael Grant was a great fighter
3/. Henry Akinwande was a great fighter
4/. David Tua was avoided by every top fighter
5/. John Ruiz 3 time champion was unworthy of a title shot
6/. Rid**** Bowe is a compulsive Liar
7/. The referee was corrupt in McCall vs Lewis I
8/. Frans Botha was better than John Ruiz & Chris Byrd
9/. Rid**** Bowe ducked every top heavyweight
10/. Lennox Lewis beat a prime Holyfield in 1999
11/. Tyson was afraid to fight Greg Page
12/. Lewis ditched his belt to take bigger fight with Botha
13/. Eddie Futch predicted Bobick would beat Norton
14/. Witherspoon was never a major factor in the 90s
15/. Bowe was not undisputed when Lewis was a champion too
16/. Lennox tried to represent Britain in the Olympics 1988
17/. Lewis vs Tucker & Jackson was big lucrative fights
18/. Lewis was not stripped of any belts

You are welcome to your opinions and idolization of Lewis in the same way i am entitled to my opinions of him

I know I said I wouldn't post again but I can't let this pass. Please show I said the bolded stuff.

[Scott9945]

You guys are going round in circles, I think it's time to agree to disagreee.

Yep. You both have made your cases. I know that I've already decided who I think is right.