Lennox Lewis ''Mike Tyson Was A One Dimensional Boxer''

[NChristo]

It's a doubled standard because if you removed the name "Tyson" and substituted the name of any other Heavyweight champion then Tyson's fan-bois would be ripping that fighter for fighting a blown-up past-prime Light-Heavy who was scared ****less.

Poet

Ah k, fair enough.
Thought you meant I was doing a double standard and wouldn't say it was a good win unless it was Tyson.

[Barn]

It's a doubled standard because if you removed the name "Tyson" and substituted the name of any other Heavyweight champion then Tyson's fan-bois would be ripping that fighter for fighting a blown-up past-prime Light-Heavy who was scared ****less.

Poet

Hagler get's moaned at for fighting a "past his prime blown up welterweight " and it's exactly the same.

[StarshipTrooper]

He still looked very good against Holmes imo, he might of slowed down a bit due to carrying that extra weight

Got to take into account that Holmes was past it at that point (not to mention well out of shape in the first fight).....and I still had Holmes handling him easily in the second fight and getting hosed on the cards.

off topic: die antwood=bull conner?

Yep, one and the same!

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

Hagler get's moaned at for fighting a "past his prime blown up welterweight " and it's exactly the same.

Yeah, by the same people who call Calzghe beating a past-prime Middleweight in Hopkins a great win.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

Ah k, fair enough.
Thought you meant I was doing a double standard and wouldn't say it was a good win unless it was Tyson.

Not you specifically

[Toney616]

Got to take into account that Holmes was past it at that point (not to mention well out of shape in the first fight).....

That was a strange performance by Holmes, he would of equaled Marciano's record, he should of been motivated not out of shape, lol

and I still had Holmes handling him easily in the second fight and getting hosed on the cards.

Yeah, he was robbed in the second fight

Yep, one and the same!
Poet

Damn. How did you find out?

[Toney616]

Yeah, by the same people who call Calzghe beating a past-prime Middleweight in Hopkins a great win.

Poet

class B+ win imo

[sonnyboyx2]

Pot, kettle, black?



I've already been over the Grant and Botha fights. Why not actually respond to my comments? Lewis didn't even want the Mavrovic fight but he was a mandatory and would have been stripped for not facing him. Then you'd be here now ranting about Lewis being scared of Mavrovic.

Mercer's last fight before Lewis was Holyfield. The Ferguson fight was in 1993, Lewis fought him in 1996.

Name anyone except you, Newman or Bowe who thought Dokes was a worthy title opponent.



One of my links was from 13th April, yours was from 14th March. You work it out.



I'll take the Ring's ratings over the WBA's, thanks. The same WBA who had Ruiz as their permanent #1 contender for almost a decade win, lose or draw.



Whatever Lewis says now, he wanted the fight at the time. After beating Holyfield, Moorer said he had no interest in unifying the title. Was he lying?



What "options" was Lewis demanding from Bowe? Lewis only wanted 50-50 when he was champion in his own right. He was willing to take the short end of the purse in 1993, just not the chump's split that Bowe was offering.

You're viewing things in hindsight again. Grant's win over Golota trumped anything Ruiz had done to that point. At the time Ruiz was a nobody whose high rating owed more to Don King than anything he'd done in the ring. Which of Ruiz' wins prior to 2001 made you think he'd be any good? Thomas Williams? Fernely Feliz? Mario Cawley? Which of those wins made him worthy of being #1 contender?



What would you honestly expect Bowe's trainer to say about one of his main rivals? Think Roger Mayweather would ever say something positive about Pacquiao? Futch also predicted Duane Bobick would beat Ken Norton. Tucker was also a mandatory and showed in his performance that he was a worthier opponent than Dokes or Ferguson.



And what happened when Lewis/Duva followed up that offer? Bowe and Newman made offers to save face, but they were always designed for Lewis to refuse them. Which other fighter do you know of who demanded a fighter relinquish his title before he would face him?

Witherspoon was never a major factor in the 90s, Foreman, Moorer and Bowe weren't interested in Lewis and the Holyfield fight kept getting derailed. Who was he supposed to fight?



Nothing if not predictable. You have more excuses than Roy Jones, and just as much hot air. Max Bear had a panic attack prior to facing Joe Louis and had to be persuaded to leave the dressing room by Jack Dempsey. Does Louis get no credit for that win?



Yes I think you have a genuine hatred of Lewis, way beyond not rating him as a fighter. Why even pretend otherwise? It comes out in every post. Why is that? And once again, do you have a particular problem with a London-born "Canadian" calling himself a Brit?


More like shooting fish in a barrel.

Once again not a single question i have put to you have you answered so i will ask again.

1/. Do you agree Lewis was stripped of the IBF & WBA titles for refusing to fight their No1 contenders John Ruiz & Chris Byrd

2/. Does the link below claim that the WBA told Lewis he could keep the WBA title as long as he fought Ruiz after fighting Grant?

3/. Where was the Klitschko Brothers in your Ring Ratings

4/. Why do you think the Ring ratings are superior to WBA, WBC & IBF ratings?

5/. Was Lewis lying when claiming he "Avoided" Moorer ?

6/. Are you claiming Bowe as undisputed champion should have given Lewis a 50/50 share of a fight?

7/. if yes to the above who has Lewis ever given a 50/50 split to in a title defence

8/. Are you claiming Tucker, Jackson, Bruno & McCall was the toughest fights available between 93-94 for Lewis

9/. Are you claiming Witherspoon was "unranked during 93-96

10/. Are you saying Golota was not sedated in the dressing room minutes before his fight with Lewis?

11/. Are you saying Lewis is British other than Canadian even tho he has never lived in Britain since he was 11yrs of age and is a nationalized Canadian who represented his country in the Olympic games and has been inducted into the Canadian boxing hall of fame and has lived and still lives there to this very day.. as well as Lewis easily being eligable to represent Britain at those 2 Olympic games he represented Canada

12/. What top rated fighters did Lennox Lewis face during his career who was "At The Top of their Game"

just 12 simple answers from you will be sufficient instead of you ignoring the questions and spewing out your take on the situation which i believe to be lies and untruths

[StarshipTrooper]

That was a strange performance by Holmes, he would of equaled Marciano's record, he should of been motivated not out of shape, lol

One would think. Then again Larry could be a pretty arrogant dude at times and probably figured he could win by showing up. Not a particularly smart thing considering he was already noticably sliding and ought to be putting in MORE work to stay on top.

Damn. How did you find out?

I thought it was pretty obvious :hahahaha9:

Poet

[Toney616]

5/. Was Lewis lying when claiming he "Avoided" Moorer ?

Have you got a link for this?

9/. Are you claiming Witherspoon was "unranked during 93-96

Only a fighter with the mentality of James Toney would of given Witherspoon a shot. He would of been seen as a high risk/low reward opponent.

Canadian who represented his country in the Olympic games and has been inducted into the Canadian boxing hall of fame and has lived and still lives there to this very day.. as well as Lewis easily being eligable to represent Britain at those 2 Olympic games he represented Canada

Are you serious?