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  • #11
    Originally posted by Mrpedigree View Post
    On what fact do base this ?
    The only thing to base it on is form and based on form Lewis is a far better fighter, if you go by resume and common opponents shared with Lewis ,Tyson doesn't score that well !
    Tyson was a better boxer, puncher, he was faster, superb footwork, among the best in boxing history, very hard to hit. In his prime, he is Lewis' worst nightmare. A smaller aggressive guy, with the best head movement in heavyweight history, and the fastest hands paired with a monstrous punch. He would absolutely destroy Lewis, and I think it would resemble fights like Carl Williams and Henry Tillman - very quick one sided knockouts.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Mrpedigree View Post
      Not for decent fighters he wasnt ..hell he even got beat by bums and didn't even attempt to avenge those losses....witch sort exposes Tyson to the keen eye ...as soon as he stepped in a ring with anybody not even half scared to fight back he lost...everybody seems to wanna make excuses for tyson on why he lost fights ,but no body looks at the facts...he lost ! the bottom line is that his resume against common opponents shared with Lewis or Holyfield ent that great ...in fact both Lewis and Holyfield are clearly far better fighters !

      Your post above doesn't indicate to me that you know very much about the prime of Tyson. It reeks of boxrec and hearsay by uninformed individuals. Honestly, try watching some of his earlier fights 86-88. You might be fairly impressed if you are objective.

      The post prison Mike (1995-) was not what I was referring to. Lewis would have a good chance to beat any version of Tyson post 1990, though the Mike who faced Razor Ruddock both times in 1991 was still pretty useful. Naturally The mid-late 90s versions of Lewis and Holyfield were superior to that version of Tyson.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
        Your post above doesn't indicate to me that you know very much about the prime of Tyson. It reeks of boxrec and hearsay by uninformed individuals. Honestly, try watching some of his earlier fights 86-88. You might be fairly impressed if you are objective.

        The post prison Mike (1995-) was not what I was referring to. Lewis would have a good chance to beat any version of Tyson post 1990, though the Mike who faced Razor Ruddock both times in 1991 was still pretty useful. Naturally The mid-late 90s versions of Lewis and Holyfield were superior to that version of Tyson.
        Assumption is the mother of all **** ups and you seem to assume a lot my friend
        Unfortunately for me i am probably a little older than you ...i grew up watching tyson,i dont need to be told to watch his fights as unlike some i watched them at the time they were aired as well as since
        at the time tyson was un beaten the world was in awe of him ...but now looking back we get the chance to look at his career and the fighters he fought !
        What better fighter than Holyfield or Lewis did Tyson eva beat ?
        I always thought for a fighter to be considered great you had to have a great resume ?? is Tysons resume great ?
        Do we consider him great because of him being good to watch or because of the opposition he faced !?
        Calzaghe always gets it over this lol
        I think Tyson gets more props for how he fought rather than who he fought !
        I prefer to watch tyson over lewis...but in my humble opinion I don't think Tyson had the minerals even in his prime to beat Lewis or Holyfield on their day !
        Just an opinion..dont kill me

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        • #14
          Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
          He would absolutely destroy Lewis, and I think it would resemble fights like Carl Williams and Henry Tillman - very quick one sided knockouts.
          Wow you only rate lewis chances the same Carl Williams and Henry Tillman ...you must have a bed side pic of old Iron mike :wank:

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          • #15
            He was a lot more than that too be honest,Lewis would have a fair chance against him though,prime tyson was far from unbeatable

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Mrpedigree View Post
              Wow you only rate lewis chances the same Carl Williams and Henry Tillman ...you must have a bed side pic of old Iron mike :wank:
              Those are B - C rated fighters and I have always thought Lennox to be nothing more than a B rated fighter who was very well matched and was able to beat big name fighters at the most opportune time. I believe this to be true, and I believe that a very strong case can be made that it is a fact.

              Lewis never looked impressive, was knocked out VERY early in both of his KO losses, and never fought the best his division had to offer, which is not the case with Tyson. He fought the who's who of his day and those that people wanted to see.

              Even when Lewis took on subpar competition, in Rahman and McCall, he was disposed of as if they were world class elite ATG's. If Lewis was as great as you claim, he would not have been put on his ass in such few rounds, as great fighters can take a punch and keep fighting.

              Lewis is a product of very masterful matchmaking and good management. He had never taken much risk in his career, and when he did try to step out of the realm of D class fighters, he was out cold against high C almost B level fighters in Rahman and McCall.

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              • #17
                Lewis still has the mentality of a current fighter. You watch interviews with other retired fighters and they have much more respect for their opponents and take their losses. Lewis still to me doesn't really show much respect to them or put his hands up and say hey i lost. Funny thing about this interview was when he didnt want to make excuses then listed about 5 of them.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by The Iron Man View Post
                  Lewis still has the mentality of a current fighter. You watch interviews with other retired fighters and they have much more respect for their opponents and take their losses. Lewis still to me doesn't really show much respect to them or put his hands up and say hey i lost. Funny thing about this interview was when he didnt want to make excuses then listed about 5 of them.
                  I agree, Lewis, at any point in his career, never had a bit of class when it came to talking about opponents.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
                    Those are B - C rated fighters and I have always thought Lennox to be nothing more than a B rated fighter who was very well matched and was able to beat big name fighters at the most opportune time. I believe this to be true, and I believe that a very strong case can be made that it is a fact.

                    Lewis never looked impressive, was knocked out VERY early in both of his KO losses, and never fought the best his division had to offer, which is not the case with Tyson. He fought the who's who of his day and those that people wanted to see.

                    Even when Lewis took on subpar competition, in Rahman and McCall, he was disposed of as if they were world class elite ATG's. If Lewis was as great as you claim, he would not have been put on his ass in such few rounds, as great fighters can take a punch and keep fighting.

                    Lewis is a product of very masterful matchmaking and good management. He had never taken much risk in his career, and when he did try to step out of the realm of D class fighters, he was out cold against high C almost B level fighters in Rahman and McCall.
                    Boxing history is crammed full of ATGs who were beaten by lesser fighters. Ali lost to Spinks, Tyson lost to Douglas, Holyfield lost to Moorer, Louis lost to Schmeling, Johnson lost to Hart, Foreman lost to Morrison. That doesn't make them bad fighters. Far from being out cold, Lewis beat the count against McCall and was waved off on his feet by Don King's referee. I've seen fighters in a worse condition allowed to continue, Holmes against Snipes for one. Which leaves one one punch KO loss in 15 years as a pro at age 36, an age when most other heavyweights are excused all manner of embarrassing defeats on the grounds of being shot.

                    Lewis most certainly did take "risky" fights. Contrast his career with Bowe who fought hardly anyone of note yet mysteriously gets a pass for it. Lewis' career is full of fighters who were going to demolish him until he actually beat them, at which point they conveniently became old/shot/exposed/rubbish. He fought Razor Ruddock, who few were interested in after the Tyson series. He sought out Tyson, Bowe etc but they didn't want him. He sought rematches with fighters who beat him. He took a tough fight with Mercer in the US. He fought Golota following his beatdown of Bowe. He fought Holyfield to unify the titles. He fought Tua, another guy no one wanted to fight. In his final fight at age 37 he took on and beat his #1 contender Klitschko. Give him a break.
                    Last edited by Kid McCoy; 12-01-2010, 06:27 PM.

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                    • #20
                      At the time Lennox fought him, yes. Not on the whole though. Tyson's power was his calling card, but at his peak he was a complete package.

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