Lennox revising history re Vitali rematch

[JAB5239]

Wasn't there another BennyLeonard poster here years ago? A good poster. I think I confused OP with this one.

Yes. This is not that poster by a LONGSHOT!!

[QueensburyRules]

You don't have the facts. The fact is Vits major cut was caused by a right hand. Saying there was tape or dreads that caused it is disingenuous. What Lewis said immediately after the fight also has nothing to do with his plans to retire after fighting vits or Jones. You've said he tried to make a fight with Kirk Johnson in Canada, I'm still waiting to see proof of that.

- - Lewie missed Right hand with deliberately flailing surgical tape leaving a razor cut that Lewie further opened up by rubbing his rasta locks into the wound every time he clinched Vit.

HBO went through the whole fight after to isolate when the cut first appeared as Lewie grew ever more dirty and desperate over getting beat up by Vit who took the fight on 2 weeks notice.

Time to transfer to a muy thai forum where a mite of a chance might exist for a nanogram of respect for U.

[JAB5239]

- - Lewie missed Right hand with deliberately flailing surgical tape leaving a razor cut that Lewie further opened up by rubbing his rasta locks into the wound every time he clinched Vit.

HBO went through the whole fight after to isolate when the cut first appeared as Lewie grew ever more dirty and desperate over getting beat up by Vit who took the fight on 2 weeks notice.

Time to transfer to a muy thai forum where a mite of a chance might exist for a nanogram of respect for U.

Show me the HBO broadcast where they show tape cutting Vits. I can wait all day if need be. But I bet you refuse to post it......because you cant.

[Willie Pep 229]

Lewis held the belts hostage for over a year waiting and hoping Vitali lost to Sanders and Johnson. That cost the top contenders a lot of money. He should have quit the day after he beat Vitali. But he intended to keep fighting if Vitali lost to Sanders or Johnson.

Lennox retired because Vitali ran him out of the game. He didn't want that smoke again. Beating Vitali was the best win of his career. Even if the win was ringside aided by promoter Gary Shaw who allegedly gave the order to the ref to stop the fight, which of course enraged Vitali and the fans inside Staples Center who took Vitali's side. And then booed Lennox when he left the ring.

Interesting argument but the time line does not match up.

They fought on June of 2003.

Lewis does wait nine months before retiring, without another fight. Which means he was considering another fight, maybe.

But waiting for Vitali to lose to Sanders does not work. Vitali does not fight Sanders until April of 2004.

Lewis retires - February 6th 2004
Vitali fights Sanders April 24th 2004

[JAB5239]

Interesting argument but the time line does not match up.

The fought on June of 2003.

Lewis does wait nine months before retiring, without another fight. Which means he was considering another fight, maybe.

But waiting for Vitali to lose to Sanders does not work. Vitali does not fight Sanders until April of 2004.

Lewis retires - February 6th 2004
Vitali fights Sanders April 24th 2004

Exactly.

[Bronson66]

- - Lewie missed Right hand with deliberately flailing surgical tape leaving a razor cut that Lewie further opened up by rubbing his rasta locks into the wound every time he clinched Vit.

HBO went through the whole fight after to isolate when the cut first appeared as Lewie grew ever more dirty and desperate over getting beat up by Vit who took the fight on 2 weeks notice.

Time to transfer to a muy thai forum where a mite of a chance might exist for a nanogram of respect for U.

Four cuts that required over 60 stitches.
You don't really believe any of the BS you are espousing do you.
It's just revving the motors up!

[JAB5239]

There was a meeting of the heads like a second before the blood appeared. I take it you saw that. Did you? Yes or No? You have been around the ring long enough to know bad cuts happen suddenly after a clash of heads.

In this thread I am talking about Lewis being eager to fight Jones post Vitali 1. Why did he suddenly retire when the WBC ordered the re-match?

Once again here are the facts, if you disagree with them, I have the links and you have zero to say it ain't so. So what do you do, try to muddy the issues by saying Kirk Johsnon a fighter Vitali Ko'd in two .... NO NO NO you don't.

No, YOU said Lewis tried to make a Johnson fight in Canada after he beat Vits. Im still waiting on a link to that. And I've watched the fight enough times to know a right hand opened the cut. It wasn't a clash of heads, it wasn't Lewis dreads and it wasn't any loose tape. So who is trying to muddy the waters? The fact is Lewis said he would retire after fighter either Vits or Jones. He got Vits, stopped and end up retiring without making another fight. Are those not facts? Anything else you try to twist you do so because Lewis beat Vits when you thought Vits had him. He didn't. He never did.

[Willie Pep 229]

Or with Vtiali's Ko of Johnson six months after the Lewis fight in 2003 and Roy Jones declining a match with Lewis, Lennox suddenly retired and only when the WBC order the re-match. Now you have the correct timelines.

Vitali winked a Lewis saying " he knows Lennox saw this fight " after the Johnson destruction, and called him out for the re-match repeatedly..

OK - so Lewis hung around to see if he could pull off an easy payday against Jones. (Which would have been a joke fight.)

When Jones said "no thanks" he quit. He didn't t want another tough fight. He knew he was done.

You don't blame a prize fighter for gabbing an easy payday if it is there.

The rule is simple, if respected. When a fighter says 'that's all' (retires) then that's all, he doesn't owe anyone a fight. No duck!

The problem with guys like you . . . If Lewis has a rematch with Vitali, defeats him, and retires, you will simply pick the next guy on the list and claimed he ducked that fighter.

By the rules of boxing, tradition, precedents, and respect, if a fighter truly retires he ducked no one.

Your behavior is disrespectful but then again half the posts on this forum are disrespectful. Stu-pid categories like, "Biggest Disappointment" - "Wasted Potential." Etc.

[Bennyleonard99]

Interesting argument but the time line does not match up.

They fought on June of 2003.

Lewis does wait nine months before retiring, without another fight. Which means he was considering another fight, maybe.

But waiting for Vitali to lose to Sanders does not work. Vitali does not fight Sanders until April of 2004.

Lewis retires - February 6th 2004
Vitali fights Sanders April 24th 2004

My bad. Good call. But LL did wait to see if Johnson could beat Vitali, I remember LL did predict Johnson to win that fight at MSG but he got bombed out early. Lennox was clearly waiting and hoping for Vitali to lose. If Vitali did lose to Johnson, you can be sure LL would not have retired. LL also predicted Sanders would beat Vitali which also proves LL was unable to gauge or understand Vitali as a fighter.

[Bronson66]

- - Lewie missed Right hand with deliberately flailing surgical tape leaving a razor cut that Lewie further opened up by rubbing his rasta locks into the wound every time he clinched Vit.

HBO went through the whole fight after to isolate when the cut first appeared as Lewie grew ever more dirty and desperate over getting beat up by Vit who took the fight on 2 weeks notice.

Time to transfer to a muy thai forum where a mite of a chance might exist for a nanogram of respect for U.

Time for you to drink that poison I mailed you!