Lennox revising history re Vitali rematch

[Bronson66]

In those old days yes, Mr no pro fights Rademacher was given a shot but in the recent decades nobody gets a title shot without being ranked by the sanctioning body of the belt. You should know this.

I'm not taking your word Daniels and Stander were not ranked. Why would Frazier fight unranked nobodies anyway? Was Frazier that mediocre that he had to duck all top ten contenders? I'm certain Stander and Daniels were ranked. It makes no sense Frazier would duck the top ten.

You've already admitted you are wrong,now it's YOU trying to revise history .not Lewis! lol

You're a waste of time!

[QueensburyRules]

I don't know if the scores would have been wider or not. But to just assume so shows poor judgment.

No, the translator didn't say anything about Vits arm until the 7th or 8th round. I just watched the fight again yesterday.

Winners don't need to chase the rematch, that onus is upon the loser. Also, was it Byrd promising the German fans he get his title back?

Vits took the fight on 10 days notice? Wasn't he preparing for a fight while Byrd was at home relaxing when the got the call? Didn't Vit's have ALL the advantages?

You still want to blame Lewis for retiring after winning but see nothing wrong with Vits ducking a rematch with Byrd and going as far as retiring to avoid fighting Rahman at all. BAFFLING!!!!

- - Like I say, U too thick to follow a timeline because U was ducked by the IQ Lottery. Don King would've made U his most useful idiot...

[JAB5239]

- - Like I say, U too thick to follow a timeline because U was ducked by the IQ Lottery. Don King would've made U his most useful idiot...

I don't see anywhere in that post talking about any kind of timeline, you dunce!!

[Bennyleonard99]

You've already admitted you are wrong,now it's YOU trying to revise history .not Lewis! lol

You're a waste of time!

I proved you to be wrong, Scott Frank was ranked by the WBC when he fought Larry Holmes.

[Bronson66]

I proved you to be wrong, Scott Frank was ranked by the WBC when he fought Larry Holmes.

I said none of them were Ring ranked and they weren't. You said nobody could fight for a a title unless he was ranked ,and I proved that was wrong by giving you multiple examples.of that happening.


Now tell me Ed Mahone and Obed Sullivan were ranked when the fought Vitali for his WBO title!
Tell me Sosnowski was ranked when he fought Vitali for the WBC title!

[Bennyleonard99]

I said none of them were Ring ranked and they weren't. You said nobody could fight for a a title unless he was ranked ,and I proved that was total nonsense by giving you multiple examples.of that happening.

If you haven't the balls to admit you were wrong that's on you.

Just dont give out with the" you aren't worth debating with," when I 've forgotten more about boxing than you have learned,and you didnt even know that!

Now tell me Ed Mahone and Obed Sullivan were ranked when the fought Vitali for his WBO title!
Tell me Sosnowski and Briggs were ranked when they fought Vitali for the WBC title!

You're a clown!

Yes they had to be ranked by the sanctioning bodies to get the shot.

[JAB5239]

Yes they had to be ranked by the sanctioning bodies to get the shot.

So there is no such thing called a voluntary defense?

[Bronson66]

Yes they had to be ranked by the sanctioning bodies to get the shot.

Show me!

WBA	NR	31.07.1999	by 06.08.1999
WBC	NR	31.07.1999	by 13.08.1999
IBF	NR	31.07.1999	by 12.08.1999
WBO	N/A	N/A	N/A
Ring	N/A	N/A	N/A
WBA	NR	30.06.1999	by 08.07.1999
WBC	NR	~24.06.1999	by 24.06.1999
IBF	NR	31.05.1999	by 12.06.1999
WBO	N/A	N/A	N/A
Ring	N/A	N/A	N/A
WBA	NR	30.04.1999	by 13.05.1999
WBC	NR	~24.06.1999	by 24.06.1999
IBF	NR	31.05.1999	by 12.06.1999
WBO	N/A	N/A	N/A
Ring	N/A	N/A	N/A

Vitali Klitschko 246 lbs beat Ed Mahone 229 lbs by TKO at 1:45 in round 3 of 12

• Date: 1999-10-09
• Location: Koenig Pilsener Arena, Oberhausen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
• Referee: Rudy Battle
• Judge: Axel Zielke 20-18

  1 10 9	2 10 9

• Judge: Luis Pabon 20-18

  1 10 9	2 10 9

• Judge: Luca Montella 20-18

  1 10 9	2 10 9

• World Boxing Organization Heavyweight Title (1st defense by Klitschko)

Notes

• Bout announced presumably by September 12/October 2.[1][2][3]

WBA	NR	30.09.1999	by 11.10.1999
WBC	NR	31.07.1999	by 13.08.1999
IBF	NR	30.09.1999	by 02.10.1999
WBO	N/A	N/A	N/A
Ring	N/A	N/A	N/A
WBA	NR	31.07.1999	by 06.08.1999
WBC	NR	31.07.1999	by 13.08.1999
IBF	NR	31.07.1999	by 12.08.999
WBO	N/A	N/A	N/A
Ring	N/A	N/A	N/A
WBA	NR	31.07.1999	by 06.08.1999
WBC	NR	~24.06.1999	by 24.06.1999
IBF	NR	31.05.1999	by 12.06.1999
WBO	N/A	N/A	N/A
Ring	N/A	N/A	N/A

Vitali Klitschko 245 lbs beat Obed Sullivan 228 lbs by RTD at 3:00 in round 9 of 12

• Date: 1999-12-11
• Location: Sporthalle, Alsterdorf, Hamburg, Germany
• Referee: Joe Cortez
• Judge: Axel Zielke 90-81

  1 10 9	2 10 9	3 10 9	4 10 9	5 10 9	6 10 9	7 10 9	8 10 9	9 10 9

• Judge: Larry Hazzard Jr 90-81

  1 10 9	2 10 9	3 10 9	4 10 9	5 10 9	6 10 9	7 10 9	8 10 9	9 10 9

• Judge: Victor Salomon 90-81

  1 10 9	2 10 9	3 10 9	4 10 9	5 10 9	6 10 9	7 10 9	8 10 9	9 10 9

• World Boxing Organization Heavyweight Title (2nd defense by Klitschko)

Comments

• Announced on November 11.[1]
• Sullivan was a late replacement for Danell Nicholson, who withdrew on November 8.
• The fight was televised by Premiere World in Germany and by Showtime in the United States.
• There was a capacity crowd of 7,000.

[Bronson66]

Yes they had to be ranked by the sanctioning bodies to get the shot.

Klitschko punishes outgunned Briggs
By Dan Rafael, ESPN.com, October 18, 2010

Klitschko lands a right against Briggs

Briggs, the former two-time titleholder, had done nothing in years to warrant this title shot, but because the heavyweight division is so weak on credible contenders, and because Briggs has a name, he got the fight. He might regret it after the absolutely massive beating he took. Klitschko, with the highest knockout percentage in heavyweight championship history, laid gargantuan punishment on Briggs for the entire fight, but Briggs never went down. He showed a big heart and absolutely nothing else. Klitschko pummeled him repeatedly with flush right hands, many of them the chopping variety to the side of the head and behind the ear. Punch after punch, Briggs, 38, of New York, just sopped it all up in a frightening display. Klitschko, 39, fought a flawless fight and seemed on the verge of a knockout several times, including in the seventh round when he buckled Briggs with a right hand near the end of the round. But the bell saved him and referee Ian John Lewis showed no interest in stopping it.

The pounding got worse in the eighth when the fight seemed to move from sporting event to simple and unnecessary public violence. Klitschko kept pounding away trying to get Briggs to go down, but he wouldn't, and Briggs' trainers (Herman Caicedo and Eddie Mustafa Muhammad) and Lewis showed a lot of bravery by letting the beating continue. In the end, Briggs made it to the final bell, but at what cost? He wound up in the hospital with a broken left orbital bone, a broken nose and a badly torn left biceps (for which he will need surgery). And who knows what other damage was done that won't present itself until later in Briggs' life? If Briggs was written off before the fight by most, he's now finished. He barely threw punches and took an inordinate amount of punishment."

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Cherry Pick!

Preceded by: V. Klitschko vs. Sosnowski

[Bronson66]

Vitali Klitschko fought Ed Mahone on December 4, 1999, for the WBO heavyweight title. At the time, Ed Mahone was ranked as a contender in the heavyweight division, with an undefeated record of 21–0–2 (21 KOs) coming into the fight, according to BoxRec. He was considered a rising star in the division, but specific rankings from major boxing organizations (like WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO ) for Mahone at that time are not given by you!

Unless you can produce the various body rankings...I say Mahone was ranked at least by the WBO. The KO blow is a good one as Mahone's head snaps sideways.

Short answer,he wasn't ranked by anyone,and a glance at his resume would tell anybody why!
Pray tell us who considered Mahone a "rising star,in the division"?