The Terrible Trio. 50-0, 46-0 & 32-0. JEALOUSY

[GhostofDempsey]

Floyd sold his fights because people wanted him to lose. Nobody paid to watch floyd win fights. Very few floyd mayweather fan boys are hard core boxing fans. Most hard core boxing fans have a disdain towards Floyd. Floyd isnt the first fighter to disrespect his opponents. Floyd isnt the first boxer who allegedly cherry picks. You can stay the same, for cherry picks for Chavez. However, to always bring down Floyd's undefeated record, Chavez fans will say Julio was 89-0 but 90% of those fights were bums. Then canelo fans say canelo who was a champion, was inexperienced when floyd schooled him.

So you are admitting people have a problem with floyds personality and his fan base ? Thats what i mentioned above. Just judge him on his skills and nothing more. There's an agenda to disrespect Floyd.

There is no agenda to the Floyd hate. He is a boring fighter who never fought an elite level fighter at their best. This is something his fans are unable to accept.

[Rockybigblower]

Sven Ottke is not hated among his own country men. Like this Trio. I actually haven't heard Sven mentioned at all in the last 4 years. People go out of their way to drag down Joe Calzaghe, Ward and Mayweather on random boxing articles that have nothing to do with them.

Joe Calzaghe is not hated among his own countrymen either. Its only Americans that hate on him.

[DeeMoney]

Sven Ottke is not hated among his own country men. Like this Trio. I actually haven't heard Sven mentioned at all in the last 4 years. People go out of their way to drag down Joe Calzaghe, Ward and Mayweather on random boxing articles that have nothing to do with them.

Sven Ottke is probably my least favorite fighter ever, but even then I don't hate on him- I just laugh and shake my head because of the ridiculousness of the cards with some of his fights and the situation surrounding them. Hating on a professional athlete is childish, if you are a grown man booing another grown man (save for a professional wrestling heel) you need to re evaluate some things.

[DeeMoney]

There is no agenda to the Floyd hate. He is a boring fighter who never fought an elite level fighter at their best. This is something his fans are unable to accept.

Those are valid criticisms, and I am not saying you hate him. But you know darn well there are people who go overboard in their vitriol towards him, and make illogical arguments against him due to their emotionally charged opinions.

[MalevolentBite]

Joe Calzaghe is not hated among his own countrymen either. Its only Americans that hate on him.

Joe wasnt as popular as Froch, Hatton, Lennox, Naseem. I dont hear most UK fans bringing him up. Calazage should be more highly rated among fans, but I agree outside of the UK, Joe is hated ( i do think theres a english vs Welsh thing though but i will not go that deep since i am not British) but I do respect that the UK supports their athletes. Americans put down ward and Mayweather.

[MalevolentBite]

There is no agenda to the Floyd hate. He is a boring fighter who never fought an elite level fighter at their best. This is something his fans are unable to accept.

I can also play that same game with Mike Tyson, Canelo, Terrance Crawford, and a few others. So really it comes down too. You are "hating" on his boxing style because its not entertaining?

[MalevolentBite]

To make it clear. I dont care for Andre Wards boxing style. I just respect his overall craft and him getting the job done every time. I can watch boxing and not like a fighting style.

[DeeMoney]

So lets look at the similarities between all the fighters being brought up here, including Ottke, and see if we can find the reason for the hatred.

- Controversial Wins: Either a number of wins that they probably should've lost, OR wins against aged fighters. This angers people because you feel like it leads to these fighters being overrated. And when people think fighters are overrated they try to bring them down a peg. As written earlier, this leads to the fighters fans supporting them, and in turn the bickering causes both sides to become bullheaded and intransigent, growing into hatred.

- Undefeated Record: This further exasperates the above point. The fighter may have had some unfair wins, but the fact that they NEVER lost means they never got their comeuppance. Now people feel like they really need to take them down a peg. Some may argue jealousy in this regards, but I think its really more of the feeling that the fighter is getting more credit than they are due and those deemed 'haters' fight hard to balance the score in their own minds. This combined with the above really leads to people hating on fighters. For example, Canelo gets a lot of grief for fitting the bill with the above point, but just imagine how bad it would be had he never fought Mayweather or Bivol. This place would be 60% people tearing him down and 35% his fans declaring him the greatest ever.
And thats the second part of the undefeated record, and this whole process, it leads to the fighters fans to becoming more vociferous in their praise. As I stated earlier, its a chicken and egg issue, maybe the fans started building him up, maybe the haters started with tearing him down. Regardless it grows thing exponentially.

-Lack of KOs: Usually these fighters are winning by decision. Maybe thats why their is an increase in controversial decisions, maybe we just want to see power, but the four fighters here were not known for being guys who score KOs. A combined 50% KO rate amongst them, with the vast majority of those coming early in the career against lower level fighters. This may be why Marciano, though often denounced for the above two points, is not hated on the same level. He wasn't blocking or avoiding punches, he wasn't tying guys up. Yeah he was undefeated and got a lot of wins against old fighters, but at least he earned it the hard way the tought is.

[Willie Pep 229]

There's no drama, there's no greatness.

Greb breaking open Tunney's face makes Tunney greater than if that loss hadn't been there. Same with the long-count, the win counted more for Tunney.

Dempsey figured out how to fall out of the ring against Firpo, and comeback and win the fight.

Marciano's nose wanted to fall off his face against Charles, and people could see it.

SRR kept losing and regaining the MW Title.

That's stuff is great. Greatness creates drama.

Meanwhile . . .

Mayweather Jr., while fighting a championship defense, joined into a conversation with the bored announcers, about the NFL playoffs, literally

He was talking to the announcers about football while he was actually fighting. WTF!

That's the only memory I have of a Mayweather fight. That's not great stuff. Greatness creates drama.

P.S. I must retract. I have a second memory. Hatton knocking himself out with the turn-buckle. Not great drama, not great stuff. But that was funny.

[MalevolentBite]

So lets look at the similarities between all the fighters being brought up here, including Ottke, and see if we can find the reason for the hatred.

- Controversial Wins: Either a number of wins that they probably should've lost, OR wins against aged fighters. This angers people because you feel like it leads to these fighters being overrated. And when people think fighters are overrated they try to bring them down a peg. As written earlier, this leads to the fighters fans supporting them, and in turn the bickering causes both sides to become bullheaded and intransigent, growing into hatred.

- Undefeated Record: This further exasperates the above point. The fighter may have had some unfair wins, but the fact that they NEVER lost means they never got their comeuppance. Now people feel like they really need to take them down a peg. Some may argue jealousy in this regards, but I think its really more of the feeling that the fighter is getting more credit than they are due and those deemed 'haters' fight hard to balance the score in their own minds. This combined with the above really leads to people hating on fighters. For example, Canelo gets a lot of grief for fitting the bill with the above point, but just imagine how bad it would be had he never fought Mayweather or Bivol. This place would be 60% people tearing him down and 35% his fans declaring him the greatest ever.
And thats the second part of the undefeated record, and this whole process, it leads to the fighters fans to becoming more vociferous in their praise. As I stated earlier, its a chicken and egg issue, maybe the fans started building him up, maybe the haters started with tearing him down. Regardless it grows thing exponentially.

-Lack of KOs: Usually these fighters are winning by decision. Maybe thats why their is an increase in controversial decisions, maybe we just want to see power, but the four fighters here were not known for being guys who score KOs. A combined 50% KO rate amongst them, with the vast majority of those coming early in the career against lower level fighters. This may be why Marciano, though often denounced for the above two points, is not hated on the same level. He wasn't blocking or avoiding punches, he wasn't tying guys up. Yeah he was undefeated and got a lot of wins against old fighters, but at least he earned it the hard way the tought is.

Can you name one mexican boxing champion that mexican fans openly disrespect? I can't think of one. Even Margarito, gets a pass. People dont even openly dig him down and his win over cotto was never over turned and he was still allowed to continue on his career. If Canelo was undefeated man, if you think his fan base is wild now, if he was undefeated he would be untouchable. Nobody would mention the failed drug test etc.

But Americans go out of their way to disrespect Floyd, if floyd was any other nationality they would call him a God. But other than That. I agree but man.

People really hate these three fighters more Ward and Mayweather.