Tunney & Louis

[Dr Z]

Max beat Louis by countering over his low left returning jab,
Whilst Tunney's power is usually underrated,nobody to date has equated his right hand with Schmeling's.

And you don't think Tunney could replicate this flaw in Louis' stance? He is a shuffling slow footed man.

Remember to carry your cane hand high, not low.

[Bronson66]

And you don't think Tunney could replicate this flaw in Louis' stance? He is a shuffling slow footed man.

Remember to carry your cane hand high, not low.

If you knew anything about boxing,which you don't ,you would know that Blackburn corrected this fault,after that fight.
You would also know that Tunney did not have Schmeling's power.

[Bronson66]

He actually dominated Dempsey though, it's important to actually watch the fight. In that fight he shows plenty of looks that might give Louis fits.

Your comment about "not facing any black men" is ****** because it gives the impression he was ducking blacks. In his day it could have destroyed his image. he may not have even been a racist himself - the general public was.

You know he wasn't ducking blacks?

[Dr Z]

If you knew anything about boxing,which you don't ,you would know that Blackburn corrected this fault,after that fight.
You would also know that Tunney did not have Schmeling's power.

Tunney has 50 knockouts and floored Dempsey. While he may not hit quite as hard as Max, he was no powder puncher like Braddockr who also floored Louis. He may hit harder than Walcott who floored Louis twice. YKSAB

That's all for now.

[Bronson66]

Tunney has 50 knockouts and floored Dempsey. While he may not hit quite as hard as Max, he was no powder puncher like Braddock or Conn who also flooded Louis. He may hit harder than Walcott who floored Louis twice. YKSAB

That's all for now.

Listen ******.
Tunney has 48 stoppage wins ,not 50,26 of which were over men ranging from welterweight to light heavy.
Here are the records of 23 of Tunney's stoppage victims.
1-8-0
0-1-0
0-0-0
6-11-0
0-0-0
0-0-0
0-0-0
8-24-2
3-1-1
0-0-0
8-23-2
0-2-0
0-0-0
1-3-0
2-14-1
4-8-2
7-9-5
0-1-0
2-20-1
1-5-0
5-21-3
4-24-1
1-8-0
These men were scrubs!
Only 21 of his stoppage wins are over men with winning records.

Braddock was not a light puncher.

[Dr Z]

Listen ******.
Tunney has 48 stoppage wins ,not 50,26 of which were over men ranging from welterweight to light heavy.
Here are the records of 23 of Tunney's stoppage victims.
1-8-0
0-1-0
0-0-0
6-11-0
0-0-0
0-0-0
0-0-0
8-24-2
3-1-1
0-0-0
8-23-2
0-2-0
0-0-0
1-3-0
2-14-1
4-8-2
7-9-5
0-1-0
2-20-1
1-5-0
5-21-3
4-24-1
1-8-0
These men were scrubs!
Only 21 of his stoppage wins are over men with winning records.

Braddock was not a light puncher.

Braddock and Conn did not hit as hard as Tunney. Since you have time to spare, why don't you mine the incomplete records at box rec and tell me the bums they carried?

Got it **** ?

Regardless of how hard " think " Braddock hit, he floored Louis and Conn had him in trouble.

[Bronson66]

Braddock and Conn did not hit as hard as Tunney. Since you have time to spare, why don't you mine the incomplete records at box rec and tell me the bums they carried?

Got it **** ?

Regardless of how hard " think " Braddock hit, he floored Louis and Conn had him in trouble.

I haven't compared either of them to Tunney,what I have pointed out to you in your ignorance is that over half of Tunney's stoppages were over men ranging in weight from welterweight to Lhvy,and a further 10 were pumped up light heavies who could easily have made the lhvy limit.The vast majority of Tunney's victims were 3rd raters and several were over serviceman.

I also at no point mentioned Conn.

[them_apples]

You know he wasn't ducking blacks?

Nobody knows but key word nobody knows. He just as likely was not as he woulda been and it should be left out of the conversation because the public of the day hated whites fighting blacks leaving him no choice

[them_apples]

Listen ******.
Tunney has 48 stoppage wins ,not 50,26 of which were over men ranging from welterweight to light heavy.
Here are the records of 23 of Tunney's stoppage victims.
1-8-0
0-1-0
0-0-0
6-11-0
0-0-0
0-0-0
0-0-0
8-24-2
3-1-1
0-0-0
8-23-2
0-2-0
0-0-0
1-3-0
2-14-1
4-8-2
7-9-5
0-1-0
2-20-1
1-5-0
5-21-3
4-24-1
1-8-0
These men were scrubs!
Only 21 of his stoppage wins are over men with winning records.

Braddock was not a light puncher.

This is because Tunney fought in an era where tuneups were a thing to stay active. You fought much more frequently so every fighter had loads of cab drivers mixed in with good fighters. It was a trade job not a marketing gimmick job like today where everyone is miraculously undefeated somehow from not fighting anyone. The records are also wildy innacurate

[them_apples]

And you don't think Tunney could replicate this flaw in Louis' stance? He is a shuffling slow footed man.

Remember to carry your cane hand high, not low.

Louis is not a shuffling slow footed man. Hes an extremely agile man who is hiding his speed with short smooth movements. They called him the panther. He creeped up on you and when he let his shots go you couldn’t even see them. Thats how he registered these legitimate knockouts. Blackburn was a master and taught him this style