The top ten Heavyweight Legacies of the fighters from 1999 to current

[The Defecator]

Lennox was the last great heavyweight. Everyone after that was jockeying for the title of the least pathetic clown in the circus.

[Dr. Z]

Post yours and I will follow.

I already posted 10, with some detail. I aksed you first, but worry not when time allows I will extend the list to 20. It will be sort of funny to watch where you place Ortiz with his one ring ranked magazines win, and non alphabt titles to his name.

[Dr. Z]

Dr. Z

Heavyweight Legacies of the fighters from 1999 to current..


1. Lewis. I must say he has the most ring magazine rated wins for his career. Well, getting KO's two times by one punch inside of five rounds will always be a fly in his ointment, he was otherwise excellent. Beat every opponent he faced ( with re-matches )

2. W Klitschko. He had the 2nd most ring magazine rated victories on the list. Great let jab and hook . A laser like right. And the 2md fastest pair of hands on the list. He lost a bit past age 39, but that should not be held against him.

3. V Klitschko. He has the best rounds won to rounds lost in boxing history. Never floored by a punch. And a very high 91.1% KO percentage, He rates 3rd most in ring magazine victores. An injury and a cut are the reasons why he lost as he was ahead in both fights.

4. Povetkin. The winner of many ranked heavyweights such as Chageav, Chambers, and Byrd,. He also defeated alphabet champions such as Rahman, and defeated raked Whyte. Good enough of a resume for 4th.

5. Usyk* He is still an active fighter. His two wins over Joshua has 1 or 2 big fights ahead for this undefeated fighter. His standing in in flux with his next best win over Chisrora.

6. * Fury He is still undefeated, but he lost two fights on most fans score cards ( McDermott and Ngannou who was a 0-0 37 year old boxer. Fury was busted for PED's and is a dirty fighter, being docked five points in five separate fights. His two big wins are over Wilder who has beaten nobody of note and Wallin who was the unranked and Fury was in danger of losing cuts and required 47 stitches, and a 39 year old Wlad.

7. Chagaev A good alphabet contender, he beat Ruiz and Vlauev. Has a few other solid wins.

*8. Joshua. Has built a solid resume with wins over Andy Ruiz, Parker and beat a 41 year old Wlad, but he lost to Usk twice and Ruiz once. Still an active fighter. His standing is not set yet.

9. Sanders. A fast handed Southpaw, and one with top end power he beat a prime Wlad ( which is the #1 wins from 1994-2023 and Alphabet Champion Czyz. Lost an exciting fight to Rahman and got beat down by Vitali .

10. Ibragimov. A fast moving south with power and a good chin, his only defeat was to Wlad. He also beat a faded Holyfield and an older Briggs, but retired way too soon. His legacy could have been greater.

So who will make the list to complete for 30 years of boxing 1997- 2027?

We shall see if anyone does. I think highly of Hrgovic's and Jalolov chances. Will they be champions and how good?

Per request I am extending the list to 20.

11. Wilder
12. Byrd
13. Peter
14 Haye
15. Valuev
16. Ruiz
17. Brewster
18. Maskaev
19. Pulev
20. Adamek

I did put as much thought in spots #11 -20, as such I reserve the right to tinker with it. This is the for 21 century to date.

[Ivich]

Per request I am extending the list to 20.

11. Wilder
12. Byrd
13. Peter
14 Haye
15. Valuev
16. Ruiz
17. Brewster
18. Maskaev
19. Pulev
20. Adamek

I did put as much thought in spots #11 -20, as such I reserve the right to tinker with it. This is the 21 century to date.

I'm not putting them in any order.
Lewis
Holyfield
Wilder
Fury
Joshua
Haye
Wlad
Vitali
Tyson
Whyte
Povetkin
Usyk
Ortiz
Pulev
Byrd
Ruiz
Tua
Parker
Rahman
Sanders
Neither do I care enough to argue about such a subjective subject.

[Marchegiano]

I disagree with the criteria, or justification if you like, so of course I don't agree with the list itself.

This list plus the whole Vitali's so great because he beat X ring rated fighters.

Together all they really tell me is Dr. Z is incapable of forming his own opinions and if you want to know what he thinks about anything in boxing just look up the Ring ratings per the era in question.

Apparently, even though Ring's had many corruption scandal, all era of Ring ratings are worth a ****.

[Slugfester]

I disagree with the criteria, or justification if you like, so of course I don't agree with the list itself.

This list plus the whole Vitali's so great because he beat X ring rated fighters.

Together all they really tell me is Dr. Z is incapable of forming his own opinions and if you want to know what he thinks about anything in boxing just look up the Ring ratings per the era in question.

Apparently, even though Ring's had many corruption scandal, all era of Ring ratings are worth a ****.

This time he is. But I believe Ivich is usually the ratings hawker. Maybe they both do it a lot.

[Marchegiano]

This time he is. But I believe Ivich is usually the ratings hawker. Maybe they both do it a lot.

That fool already hates me for very similar reasons.

Old-gins know a thing or two but their ability to stand on their own rather than the shoulders of others is lacking. Sadly, I think the youths are similar, kids are like their grandparents, hence really immature politics and a global society in love with forming bubbles to stay in.

adolescent like love for authority.

That **** can kiss my ass.

[Marchegiano]

My criteria is who made the biggest fights of the era, went the most out of their way to take on challenges, had the most positive outcomes, and achieved the highest standards that are traditionally recognized as elite boxing/boxers regardless of era such as a high number of defenses.

1. Holyfield
2. Tyson
3. Lewis
4. Bowe
5. Douglas
6. Wlad
7. Fury
8. Wilder
9. Usyk
10. Foreman
11. Joshua
12. Vitali
13. Byrd
14. John
15. Andy
16. Valuev
17. Haye
18. Povetkin
19. Ibeabuchi
20. Tua

[Ivich]

That fool already hates me for very similar reasons.

Old-gins know a thing or two but their ability to stand on their own rather than the shoulders of others is lacking. Sadly, I think the youths are similar, kids are like their grandparents, hence really immature politics and a global society in love with forming bubbles to stay in.

adolescent like love for authority.

That **** can kiss my ass.

Are you referring to me?

[billeau2]

I disagree with the criteria, or justification if you like, so of course I don't agree with the list itself.

This list plus the whole Vitali's so great because he beat X ring rated fighters.

Together all they really tell me is Dr. Z is incapable of forming his own opinions and if you want to know what he thinks about anything in boxing just look up the Ring ratings per the era in question.

Apparently, even though Ring's had many corruption scandal, all era of Ring ratings are worth a ****.

YES!! Totally agree with this!! I think rankings unfortunately become a crutch for some, supporting intellectual lack of effort. I could not give a shiat about any formal rankings system, much preferring to see a well thought out list here from one of our many posters. I particularly admire such an undertaking because: I suck at making lists, and I hate scoring fights...anyone who does either has my respect.