The top ten Heavyweight Legacies of the fighters from 1999 to current

[Ivich]

Normal personalities around here are as rare as vegetarian alligators.

Some deviants are obvious, some inadvertently only let a few clues slip out. Some think they are on a scholarly mission; that could be a clue right there.

I see this place as a small society of deviants I more or less adore. A family. One deviant balances another. From disagreements I learn much. A war of facts causes you to take sides. You can only reasonably do that after you have been forced to ascertain the actual facts of the matter for yourself by doing some research. So the opportunity is always there to learn from a war of facts.

Wars of personality and creed are more common. They can be fun--up to a point!

This war already got won.

Normal personalities don't have post scripts about two gay men washing each others anuses prior to sex in their posts
You and Glaukos seem to feel its okay to randomly attack posters as the mood takes you.
Neither of your opinions matter to me, so that's fine.

I'd just like to say that again ,neither of you make posts worth a cup of cold piss, nor do they usually have any relevance to boxing they seem to be made just o for the sake of typing something ,so continue working in tandem,and you can gratify each other in that way
.I've made all the threads here I'm going to so its of no matter to me.
Too many here don't want to discuss boxing and have no real interest in it I do ,and I have.

I tried to help get this forum revitalised ,it didn't work,I failed dismally, so continue in your merry way.It's of no matter ,you have the forum you deserve.
Now post another literary quote so show you have read a book, and sail on with your vanity project

[QueensburyRules]

The problem is one of anchoring: if I give you a list of the 5 toughest fighters... It makes a difference whether they are cub scouts, or HOF boxers. Any Ring ranking is relative to the strength of boxing, the division. Daggum is my favorite... He thinks that because Wilder has not beat fighters ranked by one of the major rankings, it makes an objective difference... even when every fighter in the ranking is a big, slow Euro-amatuer backgrounded scrub. He feels that this ranking materially affects the fact that Wilder has fought Fury competatively, beat Ortiz who was undefeated, etc. I don't get that logic bub!

- - Billy, you OK?

Never see’d you compile evidence logically before.

[Slugfester]

Doesn't matter if it is not exclusive... That is the whole point... To be perfectly clear: Using a ratings system unanchored to any other support to claim a fighter, is great, or some conclusion about boxing is illogical. There has to be some other information involved. Using rankings in addition to other information is an entirely different matter. Calling someone something that suggests they emphasize these ratings would lead a normal reasonable person to assume such a person is relying upon them in an unreasonable way.

I have never seen Ivitch do it. If you did see it, then state it, otherwise I stand by my comment. I am sorry you are miffed but I am sick of people here making statements about others that are unsubstantiated. It is wrong and it starts rumors.

Ivitch, regardless of what one thinks of him supports his positions... One can disagree with them for sure, thats great, but the difference is: some people support a contention SIMPLY by citing a ratings system. Daggum is a perfect example of such a person, Z does it at times as well...

Edit: let me amend the above to include one who places any undo emphasize on that which is a relative ranking... So there is no splitting hairs about the use of these rankings.

*****
Oh some people, some people. I am not going to report to you every time I comment about someone. I will not be dressed down for any comment within forum guidelines.

[Slugfester]

Normal personalities don't have post scripts about two gay men washing each others anuses prior to sex in their posts
You and Glaukos seem to feel its okay to randomly attack posters as the mood takes you.
Neither of your opinions matter to me, so that's fine.

I'd just like to say that again ,neither of you make posts worth a cup of cold piss, nor do they usually have any relevance to boxing they seem to be made just o for the sake of typing something ,so continue working in tandem,and you can gratify each other in that way
.I've made all the threads here I'm going to so its of no matter to me.
Too many here don't want to discuss boxing and have no real interest in it I do ,and I have.

I tried to help get this forum revitalised ,it didn't work,I failed dismally, so continue in your merry way.It's of no matter ,you have the forum you deserve.
Now post another literary quote so show you have read a book, and sail on with your vanity project

Mission, huh? I already knew you were but a soft-shelled mollusk missionary. But listen, I want you to be happy elsewhere. Must be a helluva place you burrowed out for yourself over there. I won't even ask the address, because a plebe like me who wouldn't go 5,000 rounds with Z for anything except his life, could not cut that elite mustard. Is it a gated community? Just a little hint. You've set us all a-slavering.

Don't think we are not proud of our prodigy and protege. In trying to shape us into the men we should be, and would all like to be, you became stronger. Admit it, Messiah!! We feel we helped make you...or perhaps made you puke. No matter, let us not say sayonara with ill temper just because you happen to be gay. We will share your successes vicariously, and you cannot stop us.

We know you have threatened to walk out on us before, but somehow this time we think you mean it. A gal will only take so much, and we support you. Good luck, good cheer and God speed, especially God speed.

Your Affectionate Friend, Fester

[Dr. Z]

YES!! Totally agree with this!! I think rankings unfortunately become a crutch for some, supporting intellectual lack of effort. I could not give a shiat about any formal rankings system, much preferring to see a well thought out list here from one of our many posters. I particularly admire such an undertaking because: I suck at making lists, and I hate scoring fights...anyone who does either has my respect.

I can get on board with this, but ranking Holyfield as a 21st century fighter #1 and Tyson #2 is way out there. And Douglas #5 based on what?

This is not a well taught out list, but at least the has the stones to post one.

[Dr. Z]

Normal personalities around here are as rare as vegetarian alligators.

Some deviants are obvious, some inadvertently only let a few clues slip out. Some think they are on a scholarly mission; that could be a clue right there.

I see this place as a small society of deviants I more or less adore. A family. One deviant balances another. From disagreements I learn much. A war of facts causes you to take sides. You can only reasonably do that after you have been forced to ascertain the actual facts of the matter for yourself by doing some research. So the opportunity is always there to learn from a war of facts.

Wars of personality and creed are more common. They can be fun--up to a point!

This war already got won.

I like word usage here.

" rare as vegetarian alligators.

"

By the way, I have eaten alligator meat before. It's very chewy and does not taste good to me. I guess that does not qualify me as a vegetarian.

Their skins however make nice belts and since there are about 1.5 million of them in the state I live in I don't feel guilty. An alligator jacket? Maybe if you want to look like a badass.

[Marchegiano]

Normal personalities don't have post scripts about two gay men washing each others anuses prior to sex in their posts
You and Glaukos seem to feel its okay to randomly attack posters as the mood takes you.
Neither of your opinions matter to me, so that's fine.

I'd just like to say that again ,neither of you make posts worth a cup of cold piss, nor do they usually have any relevance to boxing they seem to be made just o for the sake of typing something ,so continue working in tandem,and you can gratify each other in that way
.I've made all the threads here I'm going to so its of no matter to me.
Too many here don't want to discuss boxing and have no real interest in it I do ,and I have.

I tried to help get this forum revitalised ,it didn't work,I failed dismally, so continue in your merry way.It's of no matter ,you have the forum you deserve.
Now post another literary quote so show you have read a book, and sail on with your vanity project

I didn't attack you P U S S Y. I am now. You're just so ****ing soft, ******, and in capable of getting along you take every mention as a personal attack. Now I'm attacking you personally P U S S Y. Bet your P U S S Y ass won't prove who you are, what you did with your life, or any ****ing thing actually personal because you're a P U S S Y scared to be juxtaposed to the man you call "unhinged"


All sorts of off the rails now P U S S Y, TF you gonna do about it?

[Marchegiano]

I can get on board with this, but ranking Holyfield as a 21st century fighter #1 and Tyson #2 is way out there. And Douglas #5 based on what?

This is not a well taught out list, but at least the has the stones to post one.

What's that? Do ya, do ya reckon, maybe, just might, be a little more reflective of the individual writing it and less reflective of an individual citing another man's opinion to support their own?

What was my stated goal? What was your reaction? Hell, just told Ivich but same is true here, put that tired old hamster on her wheel and put two-and-two together.

[Ivich]

Mission, huh? I already knew you were but a soft-shelled mollusk missionary. But listen, I want you to be happy elsewhere. Must be a helluva place you burrowed out for yourself over there. I won't even ask the address, because a plebe like me who wouldn't go 5,000 rounds with Z for anything except his life, could not cut that elite mustard. Is it a gated community? Just a little hint. You've set us all a-slavering.

Don't think we are not proud of our prodigy and protege. In trying to shape us into the men we should be, and would all like to be, you became stronger. Admit it, Messiah!! We feel we helped make you...or perhaps made you puke. No matter, let us not say sayonara with ill temper just because you happen to be gay. We will share your successes vicariously, and you cannot stop us.

We know you have threatened to walk out on us before, but somehow this time we think you mean it. A gal will only take so much, and we support you. Good luck, good cheer and God speed, especially God speed.

Your Affectionate Friend, Fester

I said I wouldn't make any more threads,and I won't.
Who mentioned mission,not me? I'm happy everywhere because the silly childish antics you and Glucose indulge in don't affect me per se, they just emphasise that you two are cases of arrested development.
Do you imagine calling me gay is taken as an insult by me?
Pathetic.
BTW its PLEB not PLEBE.

[Ivich]

I didn't attack you P U S S Y. I am now. You're just so ****ing soft, ******, and in capable of getting along you take every mention as a personal attack. Now I'm attacking you personally P U S S Y. Bet your P U S S Y ass won't prove who you are, what you did with your life, or any ****ing thing actually personal because you're a P U S S Y scared to be juxtaposed to the man you call "unhinged"


All sorts of off the rails now P U S S Y, TF you gonna do about it?

I'm going to have a good laugh Glucose!
What personal things are you interested in hearing about from me? What my interests are?
Being Gay I'm into needle point , fashion,and ballet.

I hope you wont be dissapointed if I don't inquire what your interests are,but the truth is I couldn't care less.

Well maybe just one question.Is the thought of those naked ancient Greek boxers,all sweaty and oiled the reason your interest was sparked by them originally ? Take care sweet heart!